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Old 01-26-2010, 12:14 PM   #14
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Re: Ichigo should have been trained in kidoh

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You still don't understand my point. Yammy didn't even touch Ichigo before his hollow messed him up. That = overkill. Meaning Ichigo in Bankai was a much greater force than needed to take out Yammy as he was. That in no way shape or form means that just because Yoruichi and Urahara didn't use Bankai ( Urahara used Shikai, Yoruichi said herself she should have used Shunko ) it doesn't mean they are eons away from Ichigo, since his Bankai was overkill against Yammy.
I thought they were pretty outclassing him too. Yammy didn’t touch Urahara either… It would just appear that they’d be pretty devastating in Bankai considering how they easily picked him apart, not so much unlike how Ichigo done Yammy…

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Ichigo on the other had already ran into GJ and Ulquiorra. He knew what he was up against.
Maybe we just see Ichigo lose too much while dipping into his Bankai… I kind of wish it was implied that he’d lose even in his Bankai than for his opponents to defeat him in his Bankai. Make like he’d train to get his stats better, then unleash Bankai when he faces his opponents in their next meetings... It just looks discrediting to Ichigo’s strength when he losses with every fiber while his opponents are still conserving their strengths however, we see Kenpachi (someone Ichigo defeated before) defeat the 5th seat out right.

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Based on feats Stark can handle physical abilities from a Zanpaktou just fine, but Shunsui has a very confusing haxx. That is why he lost.
Going on that logic Aizen is more than partially as devastating as he is, is because of his Shikai’s ability… I would agree with this but in this case, the stronger the hax, the stronger the opponent… And if we assumed Shunsui could have been several folds more devastating than he was (by activating Bankai), Stark really might have looked outclassed…

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Besides, comparing Tousen with Ichigo is like comparing raw ore with a bar of gold. One has had years of training and has refined his abilities, the other is being thrust into the fray while trying to berserk through.
You have Ichigo learning his Zanpaktou’s name and the ascension to Bankai not much later. Thing here is that why is the gap so large at this point? He followed none of the typical guidelines before. Not saying he should be insanely strong for no reason, but his level should be higher to the point in which we’d expect him to win “some” fights. His last fight seemed quite questionable considering all that had to happen for him to win. At this point it looks unreasonable to think Ichigo can win against Aizen…

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When his Hollow takes over into resurrection........i have my doubts, I'm talking about power not control.
But can’t Aizen Hollowly like Tousen, considering he would have granted himself the same power? If that’s the case, Ichigo’s new crazed mode would be countered… Unless Aizen didn’t do that stuff to himself… But I’m unsure of that…
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