Originally Posted by prez420
I know alot of people assume that tobi has the PMS/EMS But is there any proof ? Pls Don't confuse the PMS with the MS because he clearly has the MS but the question I am posing is if tobi has the PMS instead of just the MS? I haven't been able to find any proof of tobi having the PMS/EMS and after watching his first all out fight (vs konan) I am beginning to think having the PMS is yet another one of tobi's lies.
If Tobi is Madara then he does have the EMS, unless his stories are all lies. His brother gave up his eyes, or he took them, and achieved the EMS. It's my opinion Madara is heavily underrated. Everyone talks about how poor of a villain he is, but clearly he hasn't even needed to use his EMS (if he has it/truly is Madara) meaning he can play with everyone else using only his regular ocular powers.
If Madara did use Izanagi and went blind in his eyes, how can he use his Sharingan now? Does that mean Madara had to abduct an Uchiha ninja and transplant his eyes? Curious, because Danzo was able to possess many Sharingan-awakened eyes on his arm, were these harvested prior to the genocide Itachi perpetrated, or did Orochimaru somehow fabricate them?
EDIT: not to mention we still don't know what Madara/Tobi has up his sleeve, or rather behind his mask.