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Old 07-29-2011, 11:31 PM   #61
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Re: Jesus, not the first

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Actually is like AMA said, the bible is an alegory of parables. You cannot actually apply to the society that we are living in the whole biblical concept of life. My country in terms of religion os based on the Eastern Orthodox Church. This Eastern Orthodox Church promotes ( no other term coming to me right now) the rite of Fasting. For the guys that don't know what fasting means, fasting is primarily the act of willingly abstaining from some or all food, drink, or both, for a period of time. The irony here is that it's not quite wilingly because e whole mentality is screwed up and it's considered a grave sin if you don't do it. So now i ask, why an entity that is all powerful, that created us the people and everything that we see would care about someone who doesn't eat let's say cheese for a month? So you see, the religion is the first manifestation of fraud to control limited minds. How can you control a population? Threaten it with the hell : eternal sufference if they don't obey what the bible said. Amd who wrote the bible? Men did.
You cannot apply the "whole Biblical concept" because it was indeed originally written for a very different society. However, by understanding the society for which a work was written we can understand exactly what point is being made, and consider ways that same message can apply to our lives today.

You terribly misunderstand the point of fasting, though I'm not surprised given the over-emphasis it seems to have in your culture. God doesn't care one way or another if someone gives up cheese for a month, the point of fasting is to remove anything which may distract you from God. Sticking with the cheese example, let's say someone absolutely adored cheese and spent much of their time shopping for new and exciting cheeses to try. If this time spent concerned about cheese was preventing them from spending time with God, then fasting and cutting out that distraction would be an excellent way to make more time available to focus on Him.

Religions is indeed and excellent way to control people, which is why I consider everything said in church just as critically, if not more so, than anything else I hear. Blind faith is never good.

Yes, men wrote the Bible, but if it is in any sense true, then who wrote it doesn't matter. Even a liar can tell the truth, so criticizing an individual cannot discredit their words.



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Personally i belive in God, but god only. I don't belive in the church or the rituals. I belive that some entity exists, i don't have rational arguments to support my faith but i'm not a church maniac.
Anything can be abused or corrupted. Just because humanity has failed to perfectly maintain something in service to God does not mean that it is inherently bad.



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Also, It is not for the gods to decide whether or not Man exists,it is for man to decide whether or not Gods exist.
Just as it is not for Stan Lee to decide if Spiderman "exists," but for Spiderman to decide if Stan Lee exists.
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