Re: Jesus, not the first
Well the child was raised by ungodly parents and therefore reflects their ungodly ways. If the members of the family heed God's will and warning and begin to accept his grace in their lives, the child will then begin to heal in His all knowing and loving arms. Basically, they asked for it. All of them. Even the sniveling heathen brat. On a serious note, I think if a religious person thinks this way, then they must believe that all are born filled with sin. And babies who die in the crib go to hell?? /yeahidunfuckinknow.
See how easy it is to spout this bullshit? XD And of course there is always the trusty route of: Who are we to question his judgments, on the young, on the old, and all who fall in between? Certainly not joo Num. Certainly not joo. 8]
Well, pertaining to the convo, I think one side is saying that it is not God that caters to us, but we should cater to him and all that he ordains. Which sounds like they believe God knows from the get go exactly if we'll be saved or damned, and he made us and gave us life anyway. (Franky, Cameron, etc) **edit: and that the horrible shit in life he also planned for us.
And the other side thinks we've got free will and that God's intended plan for us doesn't always come to fruition unless we seek him and seek to live in his Grace. Hence, some of us are eventually damned. The bad shit along the way is our own doing, God doesn't want evil but allows evil so free will/choice can remain. So we're damned because we choose it. (Joseph, Daniel, Bryant, etc) And this side seems to think that there is God and then there is 'the God of our limited understanding'.
Pretty sure all of them are monotheist and Christian.
But really, still dun fuckin know. Just trying to sum shit up too...
Last edited by UchihaTaijiya; 07-31-2011 at 01:45 PM.