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Old 07-31-2011, 08:13 PM   #278
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Re: VS Thread

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Sasuke & Diedara did it.
Sasuke copied Lee's fighting style specifically to fight Gaara, and Deidara's bombs had the necessary capabilities to explore an opening in Gaara's defense through stealth and trickery.

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My point was simple though the reason why Lee seemed so fast was because his opponent was very slow.
Come on dude, you are grasping at straws here. Not only are the examples you gave terrible, but you are downplaying the Speed of Gaara's auto-defense in order to try and bolster your argument.



You and I both know that Gaara's auto-defense is very fast, and that Lee managing to outpace it was a great feat of speed.

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She took physical damage that far surpassed what Lee is shown capable of doing. How is this not relevant?
The herculean armor has an excellent defensive feat, but no offensive feat to speak of. She needs to use her offensive armors to attack, and none of them have impressive durability feats.

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She took physical damage that far surpassed what Lee is shown capable of doing. How is this not relevant?
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But that doesn't even matter since she's shown taking damage that far surpasses anything Lee has done.
Panels to support this ?



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You keep saying that Lee's speed is that much superior but really what is this even based on? Erza shown defending against Knightwings Silfalion(sonic speed sword) while getting knocked through several buildings at high speeds yet was still able to manage a counter strike.
I don't want to get into a speed debate based on the word "sonic" being present in that attack's name. For the sake of argument let's just say that Edolas Erza with that attack can and Lee with gates are equal. Edolas Erza was moving at a straight line, while Lee can maintain high speed attacks coming from all directions.



Erza has no feats to suggest that she can react to attacks like that.

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What about "Morning Star Photon Slicer"(Basically a huge energy blast)? Mind you I agree that Lee could dodge basic sword throwing she also has different sword spells such as Circle Sword, Blumenblatt, Trinity Shot, Photon Slicer and Crimson Sakura.
All of the attacks you named lack either the speed, or destructive capability to take down Lee. Some of them don't even have any feats to speak of.

Trinity sword ( If by Trinity shot you meant something else then links panel please, because I honestly don't remember it )
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_...22/c192/6.html

No continuity, so unquantifiable. We don't know what it does since Mashima didn't bother to show it, just like with Hades and his Katsu spell.

Blumenblatt

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_...8/c058/18.html
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_...8/c058/19.html
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_...25/c236/7.html
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_...25/c236/8.html

Lee can dodge this. With his speed advantage and reflexes he can counter her initial charge, and should the swords come after he can simply move out of the way.

circle sword

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_...3/c014/11.html
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_...3/c014/12.html

Pretty linear slash. Nothing Lee can't handle.

Photon slice

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_...22/c192/7.html

Beam attack that moves at a straight line.

We didn't see it's destructive potential, so that is unquantifiable. The beam itself is not very big. By eyeballing it, the beam was wider than Edolas Erza by a small margin. Lee can simply get out of the way. As for Crimson Sakura, it puts all of Erza's magic into 1 slash. However, it doesn't her stats in any way, so Lee just has to avoid it.

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The speed advantage isn't that great. Erza can take a punch to the face however Lee can not take a sword to the face or chest. There's a massive difference in killing ability when you factor in edged weapons.
Now It's my turn to call bullshit. Panel of Erza taking a punch to the face, comparable to the output of Gated Lee and then getting up.

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