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Old 08-05-2011, 11:08 AM   #102
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Re: Jesus, not the first

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Originally Posted by Gakure View Post
Don't know abt others but as a xtian, I got ma 2 cents abt this issue

Here goes:

God is all powerful, all knowing and everywhere but the same rules apply. His influence is limited by how much Man lets Him [Individual Issue]. Your rights end when somebody’s own begins [Just as how u can’t come to ma house and order how things shd be to ur liking, the same way I can’t come to ur house to order things to ma liking]. You have to remember this very important thing: God’s words are law even unto Himself. He [Himself] and the whole world are governed by what He had said. The heavens are the Lord’s but the earth He gave to Mankind. So the earth and whatever happens to it is out of his jurisdiction. He has absolutely no influence on how it is run unless the owner [Man] allows Him.

Now, Man was made as a spirit, has a soul and living in an earthly vessel which is the body. The most important part of Man is the soul. It consist the Feelings, the Mind [for thought formulations] and the Will [for choices].

Man’s fall brought about all evil. God is good and he loves us cos we [Man] was His greatest creation. No earthly father gives his child cancer, or breaks his legs, or let them get raped, or do him any evil just to teach him a lesson. How much more God. The point is, I am engulfed by the choices I made as a person.

Most sufferings and I mean MOST are self inflicted. E.g what is God suppose to do when I do crack/joint/alcohol/ecstasy etc when I very well know it kills? Come and knock it out of ma mouth every time I try to? Most evil happening is just due to the lack of common sense. If we could only apply a lil common sense [Like checking the water level in the pool b4 diving head in, Not pointing weapons at people, Staying indoors when storm is coming etc].

what about victims of rape, carjacking, robbery etc. What about them, does God not see them? Yes he does. But he is restricted by his own words. He cannot temper with our choices and so has absolutely nothing to do with the decisions of the rapist, murderer, arson or the carjacker etc to carry out their ordeal [which they shd be blamed for not God]

Victims, sorry to say are at the wrong place and at the wrong time [which is actually also due to their choices], but there is a way out. Just by the mention of the name Jesus, I personally have avoided many of such happenings. He is ready to [influence your choices and surroundings] if u allow him into ur heart.
Ignoring how in the bible God breaks his rules a fuckload, especially the not killing/murdering people rule (Or even this 'don't fuck with people's ability to make choices rule.' I think he hardened the hearts of the pharoh and his advisors so that they wouldn't puss out and release his chosen people from slavery. Just so he could kill a bunch of innocent egyptians. Been a while since I actually looked at this stuff though...so not 100% on the details.), He still makes all the rules. If the rules don't let Him help out a kid being raped, then that is still on Him. He still is choosing to just sit there and watch children be raped. The rule thing is irrelevant.

And saying that a young child that is being raped was just 'in the wrong place at the wrong time' and implying it's her fault because her choices put her in that situation (What the fuck?!) isn't what we would normally consider a morally righteous stance. It's actually pretty disturbing.
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