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god doesn't alter anything on our world because he needs us to accept him and love him enough first.
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Nope, I never said that. Re-read what I wrote abt Man's ability to make choices.
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he allows the times to change and humans to change their world and accepts those changes - almost like he evolves, but how could the all powerful uber being evolve?
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Facepalm'd this one. How is a simple Consensus Evolution. Wow, did u actually read what I wrote. Let me quote it 4 ya.
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The dispensations are different. Just like how God allowed the Jews to marry more than one in the past ages, cannot be applied now. Another word is 'Dynamics'. God is the same but the dispensations are different. Hospitals, Ambulance sevices, the police, and many more business are open for work 24/7 when most of these guys are xtians. Dont they respect the Sabbath day, they shd be stoned to death, by ur logic. Simple answer, God respects the various dispensations and ages. Lets take the Jews for example. women are placed lower to men just as @ACT said, and God respected it as such. That cannot be said now. Old things, dont apply now.
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We need to call god out to do anything... except for the times that he doesn't, because I"m certain there are quite a few people who ask god not to allow them to be oppressed, robbed, raped, murdered, lose a loved one, win a championship, etc etc etc - does that come back to not loving him enough?
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U are totally ignoring my point and changing the subject. IT IS ABOUT CHOICES. Oppressors, Robbers, Rapists etc all made their choice to carry out their ordeal, and I've already explained that Man's choices does not only affect himself, but others as well. Why is God suppose to be blamed for ur choices and not the choice maker.
Let me make this simple. [using this forum]. Why don't we[simply members] all take it out on Mibs[being the moderator] for KYF's retarded threads for sitting down and allowing KYF faggotory instead of banning him 4 life to stop his flapping? Simple, there are rules that apply, that Mibs is also bound to obey - which is, all members[including KYF] have the right to voice out their opinions which directly affects even non-members who just come around to read.
Just has Mibs has nothing to do with KYF's choice to post retarded theories and logic, so does God.
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In short, super powerful being who knows all, sees all, can do all, doesn't do shit. Why should I care if he is with me? I don't see that he has any impact on life.
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Why not? Where are you getting this info about God? Pretty sure it doesn't say shit in the bible about God changing his mind about the morality of stoning people for picking up sticks on the wrong day, and shit like that.
How do you decide what is worth taking seriously in the bible and what isn't? Just look at the horrible shit it promotes and go "You know what? This shit is stupid."? You know, use actual reasoning. If so, why not apply that reasoning to the religion as a whole? You should come up with the same conclusion.
So basically you're saying that god either isn't all powerful, or he is but he is also an attention whore, immature, immoral douchebag.
And you know how he could get tons of attention and all the credit? Just show himself and then rescue children getting raped and shit. So he's pretty fucking stupid too, in addition to being a massive asshole.
Like ACT said, pretty sure people pray to not get raped and murdered a lot. And if that is the "real issue" then your god is a piece of shit. "Beg me to help you first, little girl getting raped. Mwahaha, you didn't pray hard enough, enjoy your needless suffering."
Real talk, dude. Sounds like you worship the most horrible and immoral being to ever be thought up. And you're not making yourself look like too much of a great guy yourself by trying to justify that shit.
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Read above
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Criminalizing the victim, nice scapegoat you got going on there. What about those who are fellow church goers, god fanatics, etc, arrive home only to find it fire bombed? IS it really their fault for not having had the omnipotent ability to look into the future and predict such an occurrence, therefore, moving out of their home beforehand? Now you're just sounding unreasonable here.
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Ever heard of victims of circumstances? Why shd God be blamed for it.
It is so hard to explain anymore, my head is aching. Gosh, even mother nature's occurrences are now dubbed 'art of God'. The irony. God is blamed for every bad thing that happens [even those who don't believe He exists in the first place] but those same people forget to acknowledge Him when they get out unharmed from frequent storms, fires and accidents.
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Um...I believe he did force the Pharaoh to let the Jews go. Pretty sure he was the driving force behind the various plagues that ended with the death of his first born son, thus compelling him to release the Jewish slaves. Moses was just the messenger. Every step of the way, god was working through Moses to get the Pharaoh to see the light and release his "chosen" people.
In the beginning of Exodus he tried to kill Moses because Moses' son wasn't circumcised. So, according to you, he couldn't force Pharaoh to release the Jews from slavery (which he did), but he could almost kill his own prophet due to said prophet's son being uncircumcised. See how illogical that is? And that is just from 1 story.
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Don't change the subject. Forced=/=Caused
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Plus, pretty sure Exodus 4:21 states that God hardened the pharaoh's heart so he wouldn't let the jews go. Just so he could kill the first born sons and do all the plague shit first. You know, because he's a show off and didn't want the pharoah to puss out before He could kill innocent children.
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Check out the answer to @kael. And oh, that was just given by the way. Lets stick to the topic, shall we.
If u want proof, u can give Him a try urself. He never lets u down, I can vouch for Him.