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Old 08-11-2011, 10:41 AM   #133
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Re: Jesus, not the first

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Btw, Gakure, if you are so proud of being a "born again" Christian, why do you always type "xtian"? It's almost like you're subconsciously ashamed of the "Christian" label or you're attempting to look "new age" and "cool" by using a shortened internet form.Or you could just be stupid.
Getting personal, aren't we? Shorthand is now a crime. Pettiness.

@Mibs. Understood. As already explained He is limited. Laws are not laws until they have no exceptions. That's what makes them laws in the first place. It is not His choice to make. Man is suppose to make Him [God] his choice. You [God] can't protect people from rape while at the same time allow people to choose to rape [that will be a case of double standard].

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How is it understandable (if god exists) that there are some people who have everything going for them or are better off than those unfortunate (yourself, for example), state that God has blessed them, yet, there are people suffering in this world, just praying to find enough food and water to survive? Is God just more loving and helpful to those more fortunate than others? Your God dishes out preferential treatment then. You can't have it both ways. You can't say god's this and god's that, then reference victims of circumstance (since that's more of a logical approach to things).
OK. Let's look at this picture, shall we? There is the small part and the big one [This is an individual case in point].

Here goes: A child is taken to the clinic by the parents to be immunized [lets say HBV vaccine]. When the needle is pierced into that child, he considers it painful, suffering and with his little innocent eyes, looks at the parents for what he calls deliverance. But the parents know better. Stop the immunization [child gets HB later in life and dies from it] or continue [child is protected from the HBV].

Looking at the big picture, the parents need to continue the immunization cos that painful ordeal [to the child] is to protect him later in life[from death]. The parents have to chose between "the needle" and "death" cos they know the end from the beginning.

The same applies to God. To us, the suffering shd seize if He does really exists [small picture] but we shd look at the big picture, without it [not saying it is good], pride, overconfidence, consequence-less actions etc will be the order of the day. So to some extent, suffering is good [teaches us our limitations and helps us survive, be responsible etc].

This world is imperfect at every angle u look at it. Our suffering [caused by the god of this world] saddens Him. That is why He wants us to turn to Him for comfort, not turn to the world. If the world was such a perfect place, then there'd be no reason to turn to God for comfort.
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