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Originally Posted by Mal
How is calling someone "that Jew bastard" a good example for what you're arguing? "Jew" in this case is used as a derogatory term independent of and irrelevant to the person's beliefs; it is not an attack on the persons' Jewish beliefs themselves, but implies that having those beliefs makes them a bad person. That is an excellent example of how many people try to disguise their ad Hominems.
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Yes, it is saying someone is bad because of their beliefs.
It is saying exactly that their beliefs are bad, after all, if they weren't bad beliefs, then having them couldn't make them bad.
It is casting aspersion on their character by attacking their beliefs.
In other words it is abusive and circumstantial (let's just say it in english).
Either way I notice how you didn't try and disqualify that #1 applies in this scenario, so even if we disagree on the one point, you have yielded the other, because it either applies or it doesn't.