Re: Us government's trick to violate civil liberties
^ Yeah, nothing like trying to tell the (usually) oldest guy here to grow up and see the world how it truly is.
I'm going to go with Mal successfully getting the guy to argue in a complete circle. Have to think it was one of the easiest rhetoric conversations Mal's ever had. Give him enough rope...
Axiom - yeah, glad you stuck around, honestly. Just call it our personal philosophy that if you cannot back up what you believe, the only true recourse is to submit in the debate. Simple rules - you cannot argue a position you have no support for and if you best brain acrobatics do not convince without facts, you should concede.
Believe me, there probably isn't one person here who hasn't lost one of these. I'm pretty certain Miburo and Mal have done one over me and I know I've had my shit wrecked two or three times by Vanity - those are awesome, she really goes for the throat in like one paragraph. It's hot. So, whatever. I didn't quit because I can take a loss and admit to being wrong.
I fully enjoy this forum for that. Yeah, it's a bit cutthroat and maybe unkind in that way, but so much good can come from having everything challenged agressively - either abandon a faulty premise or push yourself to gain knowledge to support it. That's the definition of the search for knowledge and truth. Shame that AW couldn't realize that we were truly helping him.
A simple souvenir of someone's kill
And like the sea
I'm constantly changing from calm to ill
Madness fills my heart and soul as if the great divide could swallow me whole
oh, how I'm breaking down