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Old 01-19-2012, 11:11 AM   #33
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Re: The New Balance of Power in One Piece

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Originally Posted by NeoKakarott023 View Post
Shichibukai is a farce, Moria got killed by Don Qui, the Snake Princess is like Ichigo a subtitute that fights against anyone against Luffy, Hawk Eye just trained Zoro for 2 years and he's gambling on eventually losing to Zoro, Kuma was under Dragons control for a while and set up the StrawHats to be even stronger in the future, they're locations they were sent weren't 'random' IMHO.
Moria isn't dead. He disappeared right before Doflamingo could deal the final blow. He isn't part of the Shichibukai anymore, he's in hidinging probably planing a counter attack either against Doflamingo personally or against the higher-ups of the World Government.

Boa Hancock isn't a substitute in anyway. She is still a legit Shichibukai, just doesn't follow the Marine orders completely. The same could be said about Mihawk though he'll only follow his most current tasks set for him and anything else that isn't included he ignores, which is why he didn't try to attack Shanks and his crew when they arrived on the scene of the battle on Marineford.

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Blackbeard left this group and is his own entity, only avoiding Shanks from what I've seen so far, and just wants to go do whatever he wants whenever he wants. New members will be uknown at least some of them, and according to Don they'res a leader higher than Sengoku that ordered Morias death, I dig it because he was irritating, with a piggy back devil fruit power and does little or nothing on his wacked assed vampire looking, out of shape ass. Sengoku never had control over them, he thought he did because they didn't go apeshit like Blackbeard.
Sengoku consented with Shanks demands because he has high respects for Shanks, like Whitebeard, and knew he didn't want to take on the Marines in their weakened state. Shanks is well aware of the balance of power and if they had taken over the Marines at that point choas would have enveloped the world making bad for either side. The only reason Sengoku fought against Whitebeard is to maintain his own orders. Ace was an outlaw that was captured, he was only following rules and he wasn't going to let another outlaw, Whitebeard, interfere with the procedures he needed to carry out as much as he probably didn't want to do it.

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Yonku, I assumed was WB, Shanks, and didn't know the other 2, this Mum is one from what you guys say, but I don't think Shanks wants any kind of relationship with Blackbeard, so I'd doubt that he'd go along with his elevation of power.
Well, in general, all Yonkou don't necessarily have an established relationship. He'll they don't talk to each other with the exception of Whitebeard and Shanks given that Shanks has known Whitebeard from back in the days he was an apprentice on Gol D. Roger's ship. Shanks has high respects for him as a pirate that helped create the Great Pirate Age. If the Yonkou do cross paths it usually ends up in battle. They just stick to their territories and do whatever the hell they want.

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Dragon, his moves will come much later IMHO, and Luffy will play a part unknowingly in the demise of the Gov't, who's hiding the secret past that Robins running up on.
I forgot to mention those guys and like Blackbeard they are another force that will cause an upset to reshape the government system but they haven't actually done anything except save several government oppressed islands. They are kinda on stand by so to speak. The government just keeps an eye on their movements.

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other characters...
Buggy, since he got the Armlet from Luffy, shouldn't he have found the One Piece within 2 years?
The armlet Luffy gave him wasn't to locate One Piece. It was for a different treasure left by some other pirate.


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Magellan, supposedly still lives, I never saw how Blackbeard and his crew escaped from the poison blast, before he turned Red and went apeshit. He's gonna want get back from the people that left his prison, especially the previous Warden Dude that joined Blackbeard.
The second chief warden of Impel Down, Shiryu, is the one that helped them escape by bringing in an antidote to Magellan's poison they were engulfed in.

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and a note, though it rocked, if WB were smarter and left 2 ships underwater until later, brought out Oars later, and actually did a bit more than a lot of posing, Ace would still be alive, as well as himself. I know age and wounds got to him eventually, for many parts of the war he was only talking, watching, plotting, and going crazy with the Tremor Tremor techs from time to time. Not hating, as he stated 'Theres not a ship in the New World that could hold me', that I understand. He was a beast that shoulda killed more people, 1 on 1, he only killed one Marine Giant, Akainu was hurt but came back. Additionally didn't anyone from WB's crew know Kuma's shit was going to wreck Oars and shot some kind of weapon to make it explode before it was right on top of the Dude?
Whitebeard was a master strategist and he took into consideration every angle of attack but his challenge was Sengoku, another master strategist. Honestly, if it wasn't for Oars I don't think the Whitebeard pirates would have made it as far as they did nor would have the Impel Down crew that came with Luffy. He opened up the pathway that led to Ace. There was honestly nothing more that could have been done. They could have laid out the perfect plan but plans sometimes mean nothing in the heat of battle where variables constantly changed, subtracted or added to influence the battles. Whitebeard didn't predict that his own allie, Squardo, would stab him which was a ploy deceived by Akainu. The Marines were really powerful in this war and Whitebeard and his allies matched them in strength and they could've gotten away if it wasn't for Ace's need to standup for Whitebeard's name as it was being crapped on by Akainu. It kinda sucks to say but it was Ace's fault Whitebeard's faction "lost".

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note... Rob Lucci was a fucking animal, he was the best opponent Luffy has faced, with the most ability outside of Magellan who was just hax'd out.
I don't think Magellan was haxed, he was a logia user and there isn't much you can do against those guys unless you know haki. Same thing could be said about Ace, Smoker, Akainu, Kizaru, Aokiji, and so on...
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