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Originally Posted by Demi-God
Well that's your problem. If you're not open the the fact that you may be wrong about something then don't bother voicing your opinion, if you expect people to just agree with you and discuss thing either find people exactly like yourself or talk to the mirror.
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I have no problem admitting to people that I am wrong on something that I am actually wrong about to anyone who has my respect. If someone has proven themselves disrespectful I wouldn't tell them they were right if they said the grass was green. I'd claim it was brown and call them an idiot if they said different. But I only disrespect people who disrespect me first.
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When you voice your opinion, high chances are somebody will disagree with you and voice their opinion, or find issues with your opinion and ask for further evidence and/or reasoning as to why you think like that.
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I have no problem with I disagree, or this makes no sense to me, but not a one of these guys said that. What they said was: wrong, idiot, lol
Anyone who comes with that approach won't get jack outta me except attitude. People like that are only interested in going along with the trend of conversation so they can find some way to denounce it. I don't even want to talk to someone who is only out to disprove shit.
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That doesn't show integrity. That shows stubbornness and an inability to adapt to a situation when faced with a hardship that you're not suited to.
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Integrity is not compromising your morals. I felt it my duty to keep my open discussion in debate hell open.
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We would all love to have discussions with people who know exactly what we're talking about but more often than not that's not the case. Then we have to explain to them and offer the evidence or reasoning as to why. If you're not willing to do that then it would have shown more integrity for you to say "I'm sorry guys, this isn't what I wanted, I'll be leaving now."
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I realize that the majority opinion on this board is that of what you have stated, but I know for a fact that it is not all that way. I am merely waiting for this cliche to move onto other pastures so I can discuss with the others the next time around.
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So let me get this right, you came into a forum that has a general like for debating? Then decided to go against those unwritten rules and create your own rules for a conversation and expect people to stick to them?
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It was my understanding that the unwritten rules were something along the lines of freedom of speech. If this is the case then how come my type of discussion isn't allowed?
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They don't always eliminate all but the most likely possibility, they eliminate implausible things that don't have a shred of evidence backing them up and/or a logical line of reasoning behind it (evidence and reasoning are coming up a lot here).
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See the only way I eliminate something is if there is irrefutable evidence to the contrary, and not just that something can occur another way, but that the thing cannot occur in the one way.
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You do have one life to live and in this life you can't always explore every single possibility unless there's a valid reason for doing so and trial and error has shown that that's a pretty good method for working things out. People aren't taking shelter inside probability, they're using it as a proven method. If all of the most likely possibilities end up being wrong then the others are considered, but usually that's not the case.
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There viewpoint relies too much on odds. When I live my life I plan for the outcome that I would prefer, since more often than not, that's the only way it will occur. I don't pay attention to the likelihood since probability really means nothing when applied to only one or a few.
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We also want to experience life as much as we can, and that's why we talk about our ideas and explore them even if it means viewing other peoples opinions when they offer us a valid reason to do so.
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No one has contradicted me that hasn't disrespected me like mad first, so I have never had a valid reason to consider their viewpoints at all. I care way more about the means than the ends.
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Then you're honestly in the wrong place mate, it would be best to perhaps not reply any more in this thread and back away because this won't stop anytime soon. If you're so against debating then that would be the smartest thing to do in this situation.
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Like I said I realize the majority of people here think a certain way, but I know there are others that don't. I'm just waiting for "the majority" to get bored and leave me alone so I can move onto the minority here.