Originally Posted by jekyl_hyde
if you want to get technical, the roman empire rose and fell numerous times. why do you think you different greece eras as you've mentioned? it's because of the many times that rome rose and fell.
rome reached its pinnacle when it was labeled as the great democracy, no one refutes this information and history. it held the most land, and as a single civilization, had the highest population.
when i say demise, or fall i'm talking about that era no longer reaching its prominence and being in a serious decline.
Yeah, that's a problem, since when people normally talk about demise, it's pretty much the end of said civilization/nation. If passing by eras can be summarized as "rise and fall" then France, for example, rose and fell quite a few times: Absolute Kingdom of France, Constitutional Kingdom of France, First French Republic, First French Empire, Bourbon's France, July Kingdom of the French, Second French Republic, Second French Empire, Third French Republic, Vichy and Nazi Frances, Fourth French Republic and now the Fifth French Republic. Funny thing is that, even with the Nazi occupation, France never lost its sovereignty.
Jesus, the French must have been humping madly!
if you seriously want to go tit for tat, this could go on forever, considering how much history you are looking at. especially considering the roman empire, you're looking at numerous conspiracy theories. the point is, at the fall of the egyptian empire, the fall of japan (end of the warrior so to speak ie. shogun era), and the fall of rome; people were getting freaky with any and everyone and thing.
I might as well ask for some evidence to back your claims that doesn't come from a right-wing nutjob, because this is getting ridiculous.