Originally Posted by Dagoro
Opinions aside, some people just don't realize how stacked the marines were in that battle.
1- They were in their home turf with traps at the ready
2- Ace was in sight and under threat of execution the entire time. Not only did that split the focus of the WB army, but it kept WB from flipping MF like a pancake.
3- They managed to injure an already dying WB gimping him even further
4- WB was at the end of his rope
5- Obvious numerical advantage
6- Ace was a dumbass. If he had just obeyed WB, the Marines would have killed WB but they would look bad because the pirates would have foiled their plans.
Furthermore, just look at what Aokiji and Akainu did to PH. They managed to build up ice mountains and active volcanoes, and their powers cancel each other out. The SB barely did anything during the war, neither did Kizaru/Garp/Sengoku. There was a lot of holding back on both sides.
I couldn't imagine which side would have one if this was a straight war between WB + crew and allied forces against the Marines and SB, no holding back. A dying raging WB bitched slapped around Akainu and nearly murdered him. Oda merely gave us a taste of things to come in the future.
“Pirates are evil? The Marines are righteous? These terms have always changed throughout the course of history! Kids who have never seen peace and kids who have never seen war have different values! Those who stand at the top determine what's wrong and what's right! This very place is neutral ground! Justice will prevail, you say? But of course it will! Whoever wins this war becomes justice!”
― Donquixote Doflamingo