jekyl_hyde, kindly shut the fuck up. You're an idiot and doing nothing but further damaging others' opinions of Christianity.
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Originally Posted by Vengeance
Crazy bible talk which promotes incest & pimping out your children to strange men shouldn't have the right to dictate what is & isn't immoral.
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There is a significant difference between "promotes" and "contains stories about."
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Originally Posted by Human Rasengan
Its a shame that Christians try to fight the homosexual cause and say they are followers of Christ.. Christ only spoken words are listed in the new testament and he not even once spoke for or agianst homosexuality.. with him being the son og God and all it would make sence for him to weigh in on the matter seeing that it would be such a wedge issue but nope not one word..
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Ignore what jekyl_hyde had to say on this matter, that was merely twisting words to make it apply to what he wanted to say. In reality, Jesus did talk about homosexuality, but not specifically. The Hebrew word used when Jesus is talking about "sexual immorality" in the New Testament is an umbrella term that includes homosexuality. It is talked about, it is frowned upon, but it is not some terrible sin that is worse than all others as most Christians seem to think.
Homosexuality is no worse than jerking off thinking about that cute redhead at work, they're both sins by Biblical standards but neither affects anyone but yourself, so no one has any right to oppose someone who wants to do either. Further more, Jesus made it quite clear that while we may not agree with everything that other people do, we are to love them as ourselves.
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Originally Posted by Vengeance
The argument of homosexuality is generally supposed to be more about sex for the sake of Lust rather than procreation. Since a gay or lesbian couple can't conceive without outside help the every act of what they're doing is considered lust & therefore immoral. It's the same reason why things like incest, forced marriage, a gang bang done by a deceased or infertile husbands brothers, prostitution, rape, as well as pedophilia can be justified if given the right circumstances.
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This argument is bullshit, even from a Christian perspective. The only restrictions for sex to be "Biblically legit" is marriage, opposite sex, two people. God meant for sex to feel fucking fantastic and He's cool with you boning for funsies if you meet those requirements.
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Originally Posted by Vengeance
The choice if you will lies in the idea that it's ok to have such urges so long as you don't choose to act on them. Choosing to act on those urges is what is considered immoral. What is the big cosmic joke in all of this is the idea of a creator giving us these urges & the freewill to act on them while also creating a set of rules where it'll punish you for doing what it created you to do. The whole idea of a creator filled with so much vanity & rage could sit there expecting your love & devotion while threatening to condemn you to an eternity of suffering if you chose not to is rather hilarious. The creator is simply a twisted puppet master who throws a shit fit when it doesn't get it's way.
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Why are you distinguishing between someone's urge to have a dick in his butt and someone's urge to have (consensual) sex with all the pretty ladies? Neither is worse than the other; they're both sins in God's eyes if acted out. Everyone except Jesus has urges to do things considered sinful, it's just how life is.
Again, don't let anyone tell you homosexuality is some outrageous sin, it's no better and no worse than even lying to your mom about having done your homework.