jekyl_hyde

it's funny how people who preach tolerance don't practice what they preach.

@mal
nice of you to give your input. but no, i will not shut up. veng and others are already set in their ways on their viewpoints on religion, regardless if it is Christianity or Islam. as far as gay marriage goes, all i have said is that i do not agree with it. there are a lot of people like that. doesn't necessarily mean i support that ammendment. hell, i even stated that i think the government should steer clear of marriage, and leave it to the religions.

just because i don't agree with gay marriage, doesn't mean i despise gay people. i've had gay people work under me, and a couple of them were my best workers. i don't have a problem with a gay person, as long as that is not how they identify themselves (think obnoxious gay). i've had a couple of gay friends, we'd go to a bar (not a gay bar, but a hole in the wall type of joint), have a beer, order some burgers and play billiards. we didn't talk about our sexuality. we talked about sports, religion, politics, work. that type of gay person, one who doesn't identify his/herself solely on their sexuality, that person is what i would call a cool gay person (like ellen degeneres).

and as far as homosexuality goes, you are right. no matter what sin it is, they are all the same. there are no tiered sins with God.

but your notion about sex, clearly stated in the Bible, the Torah, and Quran is to be between man and wife. Not just some hooking up with some girl if you are a guy, and vice versa for a girl.

and just so you know, the Bible says that Christians are in this world, not of it. Christians are to steer clear of sin, all sin.

@veng
you take the extremes in your argument/debate. when your mouth is parched, do you not want a drink of water (or other liquid beverage)? by your definition that falls under greed. that's not greed. if you want the new iphone that's coming out soon, not envy. there's nothing wrong in wanting something, as long as it does not... become an idol that you worship after (something that takes up all of your time).

also, i never said i would burn my daughter. i know i've said that i seriously doubt you're a parent, and your approach to parenting, i do not agree with, but can we at least agree that burning any child, for any reason, is highly inappropriate.

you took my example of free will to the extreme. i stated, do i let her burn herself and learn the lesson that hot things burn you, or do i protect her, and keep her shielded as long as possible. because at some point in time, she will burn herself somehow.

a common practice that is still practiced today in the amish community is letting a child touch something hot at an early age, so that lesson is taught at that early age. usually it is a hot pan, or some really hot food.

and as far as your question of the human anatomy... that's not brought up until she is at a mature age... unless her mother has a better idea of when to do so. so when it comes time for the talk (which is what i think you're getting at), i'm going to let my wife handle that one. if we have any boys in the future, i'll handle theirs. and just because i think you're going to ask anyway, i would tell my boys that they have a pee pee (for potty training purposes) until i felt they were mature enough for the talk.