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Originally Posted by Konnaha_yellow_flash
this is hilarious seeing as how u have giving not one piece of evidence to even imply danzou had shisui's arm as well as hashi's cells... Such Hypocrisy, it must burn....
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Oh of course, how could I forget the panel that has been linked again and again that shows how Ao recognized the chakra in the arm as Shisui's, meaning the arm had to be either his or at least have a good portion of Shisui's cells?! Silly me, please continue negating what the mangaka says about chakra formation and signature and continue thinking two unrelated people have the exact same chakra.
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MS DOUJUTSU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not simply jutsu.... and the MS does awaken another doujutsu when adding hashirama's chakra... the RG fool!
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Changing the argument, are we? You clearly said that it was about MS jutsu, now Rinnegan somehow is included in the same category? That's like putting a blue eye in the same category as shotting an arrow, it's completely illogical. So tough luck, pal, you still have to prove how Madara suddenly isn't in the same category as Shisui's in your own parameters.
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Lol, all ur BS doesn't change the fact that danzou ONLY HAD HASHIRAMA"S CELLS IN HIS ARM< NOT SHISUI"S U DUNCE...
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Too bad, that isn't a fact, so you still have to explain the shit out of it.
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And this so called "rejection of hashirama's cells" shit was due to danzou losing control from being at deaths door...(notice its clearly says "he cannot control his chakra due to being at deaths door" and that "it must be hard to control hashirama's POWER" not cells... this proves danzou is using hashirama's chakra since its his POWER...)
and all this has nothing to do with all the crap u just posted or anything to do with shisui's cells, even if he did have them...
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Oh dear lord, the stupid, it burns! "No it's not rejection of Hashirama's cells, hurr durr, it's losing control of Hashirama's chakra! derp!"
You do realize you're changing sides on the chakra-cells correlation as you deem it fit just to keep your BS on, right? One moment, you advocate that if it has Hashirama's chakra, it had Hashirama's cells, just to say on the other that Hashirama's cells have nothing to do with Hashirama's chakra when Danzou lost its arm. Please, stick with a position or people might realize you're full of shit!
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1. SHisui's body was not found u fool!!!
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Except it was.
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Kabuto would have him an shisui edo if that was the case, but despite being able to find so many shinobi, even madara, shisui was nowhere to be found... not even a remnant of him... (...)
NO SHISUI"S BODY OR NOTHING SO THEN WHERE IS HE NUMI....?
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Funny how you keep forgetting Danzou lost that arm to Hashirama's cells going berserk.
And funny how you're implying you know what happened to Shisui's body. You don't know, you assume you know. Those are very different things. Oh and I don't know, nobody knows but Kishi, so admit you're trying to commit argument from ignorance (thus being fallacious).
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2.We have no idea where exactly shisui supposedly commited suicide.. it was never revealed...
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It was revealed. TWICE.
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however, no one actually saw shisui die, just walk of to go off himself and just disappear, with no body to be found...
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Oh, I see, no panel showing they died and no body shown, therefore they're alive. Gee, then I guess Sasori's parents are walking around fine and dandy and were not killed by Sakumo as Chiyo stated. And who says those two, says more characters. Face it, it was stated his body was found. You can't possibly dismiss that fact unless you make an argument from ignorance.
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So if shisui is dead then where is the body numi...
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Shifting the burden of proof, are we? You're making the positive claim that Shisui is alive despite the manga saying otherwise, so you have to answer that yourself. I have to nothing to prove.
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3. SHisui is much taller then itachi as shown here, (shisui on the cliff, itachi behind him.. obviously shisui is allot taller then itachi as u said he wasn't lol)
just look how much more taller he is lol, u are so full of it numi, its sad...So shisui is about as much taller then itachi back then as tobi was...
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Since you clearly missed the post I made about that, here's the image of a perspective study done (almost) right (forgot to adjust the angle a little to compensate distance, but the difference isn't that great)
This is funny because, later in your post, you argue Tobi made his appearance the day after Shisui swam with the fishes. So either you have a very poor sight, you believe people grow several centimeters in a single day for Itachi to go from reaching Shisui's forehead to only reach Tobi's shoulders... or you're full of shit. Neither of those are good.
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4. Itachi did not meet tobi until shisui had disappeared... supposedly commiting suicide...
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And I agree. The only thing canon says is that Itachi was keeping an eye on Tobi long enough to figure him out. Either you believe people do that in a couple of minutes or, as everyone as their mothers would say to you, that took some days. And since you even say Tobi showed up the next day after Shisui's suicide, it makes your statement hilariously impossible.
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And tobi showed up like a day after shisui disappeared lol... (time frame is obvious... the same night after the meeting with konoha higer ups... which was after his meeting with shisui where he got his eye... Tobi showed up being found by itachi... well after shisui was gone...)
Page 11, meeting with shisui during the day then konoha's leaders that
latter that night tobi appeared... 5 pages
u are full of shit... tobi and shisui were not existing at the same time then... tobi just happened to come right after shisui disappeared....
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So you link the damn page and you don't bother to read the part where Itachi says he was figuring out Tobi, so meaning if Tobi appeared the very next day, Shisui and Tobi had to exist at the same time? Learn to read before you say inanities.
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5. SHisui and tobi are the only two known for they're ability to control people besides naruto...
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"Yo, dawg, I heard you like special pleading, so I put special pleading inside your special pleading". Along with completely forgetting Itachi was shown controlling an hooker and that Madara may or may not have been controlling Yagura, you even have the balls to write "besides Naruto". Those two words along demonstrate how your argument is worth nothing, because you pick and choose who the hell you want just to make your point look credible, only making it less credible.
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tobi and shisu both have the same philosophy of being nameless...
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I'm sorry, but it was never said that Shisui had the philosophy of being nameless. Can I have a panel with such a thing that is demonstrably equal to Tobi's philosophy?
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protecting peace from the shadows.....
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Danzou, the Hyuuga clan, the list goes on. And who the fuck is Tobi protecting but his giant ego?
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Both are very much alike but u are just in denial like everything though....
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Oh, I'm sorry, I thought Shisui was about protecting Konoha even if it means going against his clan and that Tobi was about holding a grudge against his clan for turning their backs on Madara and thus wanting to take over the world with an Eternal Tsukuyomi. Silly me, reading the manga properly instead of making comparisons that make no sense.
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CONCLUSION: U were wrong about everything... all u did was post a bunch of BS claims that I PROVED WRONG with actual manga panels... shisui is very likely tobi... and the manga strongly suggests it...
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In other words, you distorted the manga canon in order to fit your delusional thoughts.
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Actually, all that has to be retconed is shisui's true nature...
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And the fact he was found dead... and the fact he was eyeless before dying... and the fact he said nothing about holding a grudge when he was near Danzou... and the fact he has no purpose anymore since Itachi is dead, therefore Tobi=Shisui stopping making sense in the narrative...
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which is clearly not a loving uchiha, but a power hungry maniac who wants to control the world...
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So Shisui and Tobi were so similar in nature but now you're advocating he had to change personalities. Contradiction much?
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lol, Ao had fought shisui and knew what he was capable of... so after a power just like Kotoamatsukami controlled the 4th mizukage for so long, then Ao saw through it finally... he recognized the genjutsu and even the current mizukage admits that shisui's Koto and the one that controlled the 4th mizu are connected
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Being connected=/= being the same. It was clearly meant as being similar to Kotoakatsukami, not the same damn thing.
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... that along with the fact shisui is so obviously the guy behind the mask with a long hair wig...
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Then why are Tobi=Obito, Tobi=Kagami, Tobi=Izuna, Tobi=Madara's clone so fucking popular? If it was obvious, everyone would bet in same horse.
Prove it. Show me Shisui, not Tobi, there.
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hes hte only one with a mind control genjutsu and hashirama-like chakra which Ao recognized as shisui's...
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And here we go again, stating delusions as facts.
Edit: I find it funny how you repeated the exact same thing in a following post. Sorry, I'm not so stupid I can't get what you're saying, you're too stupid to admit you're wrong.