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Originally Posted by kael03
Ibiki is running off of pure rumor and mythos. Jiraiya trained a RINNEGAN USER. He has first hand experience with testing the "legends" of the Rinnegan from training Nagato. That is how his information is more credible than Ibiki's.
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I can see why you would think that... but remember that Jman was only around to learn that nagto could use any chakra element... nothing else... nagato did not develop his true RG abilities until after Jman was gone so he had knew nothing more then ibiki except the elements considering Jman never got to see nagato use his real RG abilities until they were used to kill him... even then he did not even see deva realms, human realms or hell reams either...
So Jman is no more credible then Ibiki...
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Small (read: large) difference between the Yamanaka's mind transfer technique and Nagato's chakra rods. The Yamanaka technique transfers their entire consciousness into their target to gain control of them. Their actual bodies collapse and are vulnerable to attack while they use their technique. Nagato's technique isn't transferring his entire consciousness, as he's seen on several occasions talking with Konan while the Paths were causing havoc. His technique is simply him using his own chakra plus the combined sight granted by the Rinnegan to control puppets from a vast distance.
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The only difference is that nagato can split his consciousness and powers into six part unlike a standard yamanaka...(except Ino who transferred into two separate zetsu's when fighting asuma)... You never saw nagato communicate with konan when all the paths were up and running... the guy is the sage of six paths so it makes sense why he can transfer into six separate people at a time...
And nagato's chakra is how he controlled the bodies which is why they had chakra rods receiving his chakra... all the RG did was link the vision of each of them together....
You know how the mind transfer works? The user pours all their chakra into their opponent to take control of their body... thus mind... nagato does the same thing except he uses chakra rods to guide his chakra instead of relying of accuracy that could miss and leave his screwed...
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For starters, it's the 2nd gate that heals. Secondly, we were both wrong in the gate's effects. It doesn't heal, it simply raises stamina to give a "second wind" of sorts. As for Gai's fists not being obliterated by the speed of his punches, his body's limits are increased by the gates. So, again, it falls under Suspension of Disbelief because of the Gates.
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except the internal muscles are torn apart and such by the amount of force they are using remember which is too extreme for their bodies... so how come the external parts of their hands are not torn apart by the super force of their punches as well???
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Second, read what you post. Raikage doesn't say "attract" anywhere in that image. He says "you were the shinobi who would control gold dust using the magnet element." No magnetic attraction was even hinted at by the 3rd Raikage. I've already given a, somewhat, plausible explanation that would allow magnetism to give some control over gold's diamagnetic properties: he could be surrounding the gold on all sides by a magnetic field except for the direction he wants it to go, since gold is repelled by magnetic fields instead of attracted to it.
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Attracted/drawn up from within the ground which is what he is shown doing Kal!!! What is said only explains some of what is going on... the physical action of how garra's dad uses the jutsu explains everything else...
he puts his hands on the ground and uses magnetism then gold dust come UP from under ground floating in the air and is mixed into a wall of sand... and by using common sense... how could garra's dad make gold dust come up from under ground by placing his hands on the ground???
:Gaara's dad can use magnetism...
:Gaara's dad places his hands on the ground and gold dust is brought up from within the ground...
Obviously gaara's dad uses his magnetism to attract/draw the gold from under ground to the surface to mix with is sand as it is shown...
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You keep prattling on about gold not having magnetic properties, when that is false. It has magnetic properties in that it reacts to magnetism when placed in a magnetic field. However, unlike ferromagnetic materials like Iron, Nickle, Cobalt, etc., it does not create an attracting magnetic field itself. It creates a field that is opposite of the one it is exposed to, and will repel either the field or itself.
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When I refer to being "magnetic" I am referring to the ability to be attracted by a magnetic field not opposed like another magnetic field... I should have clarified...
Anyways... then you are admitting gold should be repelled by basic magnetism??? Right...
Then how do you suppose gaara's dad is repelling the gold from the top of the ground to come up above??? Gaara's dad by your statement should be pushing the gold further into the ground, not drawing it up above the ground should he...
He is clearly attracting gold with his magnetism which is not right by your own statement... so why are we arguing about this???
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Did I ever say there wasn't or that they can't? I told you to give an example of an Uzumaki that has had their hair turn white from overuse of chakra, then cited that the Uzumaki elder and Mito were exemptions because their hair was grey from age
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But the turning white from over use of chakra seems to be a natural thing for the uzumaki if nagato could do it... You try to place nagato in some s[ecial class of Uzumaki, but he is no different then mito, kushina, karin or perhaps gaara... Except he was given madara's eye's which increased his power beyond their normal limits because the eye's themselves whether EMS's of RG eye's already have a ton of power in them...
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I know that Kushina had the chains, but what was Mito's special ability? The ability to sense negative emotions? That was due to Kurama as shown by Naruto having the same ability when he started using Kurama's chakra.
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I do not know mito's uzumaki ability... just that she could sense hostile intentions or something in RSM like naruto can...
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Because the databook says it isn't, numbnuts. It is clearly listed as a "Hiden" jutsu, not a Kekkei Genkai like the Byakugan/Sharingan or Mokuton/Hyoton elements.
All that is is an aura granted by them consuming their fat cells to increase their calorie intake.
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A hidden jutsu you say... then I wonder why it uses a chakra element of Yang or Yin then as purposed by kakashi, yamato and naruto when briefly discussing the matter???
Increasing one's size and shape is not just something anyone can do I wouldn't think... the only other known person who can change their size and shape is Nagato with demon realm's power... and that is obviously a KKG technique...
And converting calories into chakra sounds about right, but it doesn't explain how chouji could become so damn strong going from pitiful low class chunin to almost kage level shinobi in a moment....
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It's not the case because they never taught it outside of their clan. Hiden jutsu aren't written down for outsiders to steal/copy. They are taught orally. It is a Hiden jutsu just like the Nara's shadow binding techniques and the Yamanaka
The only thing he's completely crapped all over was thermodynamics. Genetics and physics are in the "iffy" territory due to improper explanations.
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IDK, allot of things have been shit on by this manga including Logical outcomes...