Originally Posted by jekyl_hyde
Ok Darth KYF, in this particular case, would you rather that you be correct, and this manga take an even shittier turn... or be wrong, and pray that the manga doesn't take a shittier turn.
Because I will admit, your theory about Yagura and Kotoamatsukami fits. It really doesn't have any loose strings.
But Kishi isn't using logic parse, even logic that fits within the parameters that he has set up himself.
I agree about the use of logic... Kishi has gone mad...
Originally Posted by jericho Uzimaki
I have a theory.
What we know:
1. The 3 tails had no host when they captured it.
2. Yagura was the previous host.
3. When u are in sync with your tailed beast genjutsu DOESNT work on you.
4. Yagura didnt mention being controlled while speaking with Naruto. You think being controlled a second time would piss him off enough to mention the first time that he was.
It was actually a Zetsu that had very little self awareness.
Tobito could have just been giving it orders from behind the scenes. Like a true puppeteer.
Yagura was dead at some point THAT isn't specified in the manga.
I think Madara possibly killed Yagura, which releases the beast to appear at a different time and location.
Meaning Tobito controlled the Mist which create Kisame, a valued asset. Capturing the beast when not inside a host is much easier. So i am saying they killed Yagura and replaced him with a Zetsu and left Obito to "control" the Mizu(zetsu)kage.
What do u think?
This is actually very likely Jericho...
Except that yagura being a zetus clone, it would be remote controlled by someone and tobito would most likely of been the the controller so no need for a clone with little consciousness or w/e... When it comes to a zetsu clone... it can be remote controlled and tobito controlling it, making it say and do whatever it wants makes sense..
The only problem is that yagura was in a genjutsu just like Kotoamatsukami being controlled and AO saw through the illusion... Not sure how both could fit together, but there is something going on...
EDIT: The whole 3tails thing is hazy at this point... All the evidence we have is...
:Yagura was controlled by someone... it has been shown someone with long hair and a SG while implied to be shisui with his Kotoamatsukami mind control genjutsu...
No spoiler tags with edit...
: In that time of control... the philosophies of "ROOT" were enforced by yagura....
: The three tails was free meaning yagura died and it regenerated by now or it was set free during that time...
The evidence suggest some rather crazy things... That both Root and akatsuki were involved in the mist's control through yagura... That shisui was either working for madara or danzou, or even both... And that tobito was also involved...
The use of Kotoamatsukami was how yagura was controlled, but for some reason a long haired uchiha with mist clothing is seen controlling the 4th mizukage...