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Old 10-11-2012, 01:50 PM   #118
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Re: Naruto_605

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Originally Posted by Konnaha_yellow_flash View Post
how is the info about kakashi's attaining kamui of the MS not relevant???
Because Kamui is not MS so it isn't relevant.

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It said he was able to gain MS in obito's eye through training his chakra
Stop. The databook does not state that Kakashi gained MS through training.

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till it was powerful enough to invoke the MS we saw obito already awakened 16 years earlier through a telepathic link between him and his eye in kakashi...
What we saw was Kakashi killing Rin. Obito gained MS by witnessing her death while Kakashi gained it by actually killing her.

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This was in all liklihood because kamui of obito's MS is a senju/uchiha technique... which is why obito could use the technique and kakashi could not..
That would imply that Kakashi is senju so no. Kamui is a technique used with MS & has nothing to do with Senju. It's a sharingan exclusive.

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Obito has half a zetsu/hashirama senju body and half an uchiha body...
Which is meaningless.

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thus he can produce the power of YIN and YANG elements for a more powerful doujutsu...
No.

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which is why obito can use two different variations with his kamui which are more like two separate jutsu though...
Actually they are the same jutsu as stated by Kakashi.

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While kakashi... at age 30 gained enough chakra as a hattake/uchiha to invoke the MS that had already been awaken in the SG by obito...
Actually Kakashi awakened his own by killing Rin as shown in the manga.

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but could not muster enough chakra as a nonsenju to use kamui properly thus his half ass use of his kamui...
Overreaching much?

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able to transfer anything into another dimension, but incapable of bringing it back out like obito can, plus another variation/jutsu...
You need to remember that Kakashi isn't an Uchiha & thus can not fully utilize the potential of his sharingan as stated by Itachi back in part 1.

KYF you're clearly over complicating the situation here. None of what you're saying here is ever going to be addressed in the manga since it isn't important. The question is simply how did Kakashi gain MS. The answer is also simple; by killing Rin. End of discussion.
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