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Old 10-11-2012, 02:02 PM   #25
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Re: Naruto_606_Predictions

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Originally Posted by Vengeance View Post
Ok so logically speaking Itachi stated that if Sasuke gained MS there would be three users. Since at that time Itachi didn't know about Kakashi it would mean that the other one was ether Madara or Obito posing as Madara (Still haven't gotten a date for Madara's death). With that said Shisui being alive at that time is off the table since Itachi basically took part in Shisui's assisted suicide. Now that's not to say that Madara or Obito didn't at some point contact Shisui in the past just that as of now Shisui is very much dead. Logically speaking anyway.
But itachi was never shown the MS by tobito... meaning the only other person he knew of with the MS was shisui... the other person...

And itachi did not assist shisui with his suicide... he assisted him with the hiding of his eye... making it seem as though it was destroyed which is what shisui supposedly wanted everyone to believe...
If itachi had assisted shisui with his death, why didn't it show it in his flashback??? He was only shown taking shisui's eye, hiding it for him then left to meet with the elders of konaha... nothing else...

Itachi never actually saw shisui die... and kabuto could not find any of him anywhere... so it was actually shisui's body that was hidden too... but why when his eye power is what he wanted to hide...??? The whole thing makes no sense until it is revealed what happened to shisui's body, how he had hashirama's power and how he was involved with the mist incident...

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Oh gee, he couldn't possibly have done it before he got hooked to Gedou Mazou! No, it has to be a 5-year old brat that wasn't even mentioned once in this whole flashback!
Wow, you have the confirmed age of shisui??? NO... then WTF make you claim his age as if it is cannonz??? Kishi delusion much???
and madara has been hooked to the GM for a while it seems... they guy cannot move without dying and sleeps for months at a time...

And while madara was stuck to GM, yagura is being controlled and it obviously is not obito because he is just now awakening the MS and has not even attacked konaha yet... but the mist is already the "bloody mist" as the shinobi stated... meaning it is already under control by someone... because it got it's name "bloody mist" from the harsh rules enforced by yagura when he was being controlled...

Explain this with logic lol...

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From universal logic, which has been employed since Ancient Greece. Where do you get your concept of logic from?
I asked you because your logic dictates that somehow a man stuck to GM far away is controlling yagura all the way in the mist, thus is in two places at once... using a genjutsu only shisui is known to have...

So where do you get your so called LOGIC from again...

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... in an unknown timeline, therefore a non-sequitur.
Unknown timeline... You just contradicted the shit out of yourself...

Hey everyone... Numious knows shisui was 5 when obito was killing mist ninja, but does not know how old he was when he fought AO in the mist village... damn numikishi... you are losing it... that psychic power is slipping... LMAO...

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Pardon, where was this ever said? All Ao did was detect the genjutsu Yagura was under, nothing else was said.
The genjutsu may have not been broken... they might of had to kill yagura to free him... But AO saw though the illusion placed on yagura... that much is known...

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Except it wasn't. It was a genjutsu SIMILAR to Kotoakatsukami, it was NEVER stated it was Kotoakatsukami. And we do know of genjutsu similar to it, so tough luck.
Oh really, what genjutsu???

SG genjutsu... no... MS tsukuyomi... paralyses and psychological torture... so NO... EMS tsukuyomi... paralyzed raikage... so no...

The only thing close to Kotoamatsukami is the Combo of Izanami to put the enemy unconscious... then use tsukuyomi multiple times to make him physically do something with his hands...

Except yagura was conscious and acting normal while he was being controlled... What was done to yagura was just like kotoamatsukami's power... Yagura was mind controlled and nobody knew it was an illusion do it... until AO finally saw through it due to the use of the BG and chakra flow...

SO NO!!! There is no genjutsu anything like Kotoamatsukami... SG genjutsu, Tsukuyomi of the MS or EMS... NO... You are just fabricating more crap as usual...

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Yes, because you're assuming stuff:
  • You're assuming Madara was always hooked to Gedou Mazou. Nothing of the sort was stated.
  • You're assuming Genjutsu require the caster to be present at all times near the target for it to work. Nothing of the sort was stated.
  • You're assuming Shisui still has plot relevance. He doesn't. He's dead, the two characters that anchored him to the plot (Itachi and Danzou) are also dead, his plot is completely sealed with no threads to pull (unless you're a dumbass who sees stuff where there is none). He is completely useless to the plot now, it'd be far-fetched to shoehorn a character most of the readers don't even care about the least.
Also, you're a sore loser. We all made bets on which horse would be Tobi, some got it right, most got it wrong, but, guess what, those who were wrong moved on and accepted that Obito was the winning horse. Somehow, you still bet on Shisui, despite the race being over and him being dead even before he crossed the finish line. It's not by beating it with a stick that it'll win the race. Just deal with it, you were wrong like I was when I though Tobi=Madara's clone, so stop blabbering about Shisui, everybody is so freaking tired of hearing about a character that is tertiary at best when the manga already locked everything about Tobi to Obito.
1). madara WAS hokked to GM while yagura is being controlled which was revealed by the mist ninja's statement about the mist already being the bloody mist, which was due to yagura's control making his really harsh... it is not an assumption...

2. Genjutsu of Koto can be cast of the enemy and they will stay under the idea or thought shisui implanted... that is not an assumption... but if shisui wanted to implant an new thought or idea... he would need to be present to do it..

3. You are the one assuming shisui has no relevance to the plot even though the mist incident has yet to be revealed and he was involved in it... his body is missing, has yet to be said what happened... and even had hashirama chakra and a genjutsu version of kamui as obito's opposite... still not revealed how they are linked... SO yes shisui has allot of relevance due to his being surrounded by so many secrets that have yet to be revealed...

4. SHisui being tobi is obviously over... but he was still involved with the mist incident, is obito's opposite with hashirama chakra and a eye power never before seen... still has his body missing... and his suicide has yet to be explained... so he still fits into the plot somewhere with all this... likely as a root member IMO... It is the only thing left for him without akatsuki...

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I won't even bother with the rest, because you say "let's look at this logically" and then say Kotoakatsukami can't be detected despite the fact that if Yagura was under it, Ao detected it, thus a contradiction only a moron who can't think logically would create.
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It's undetectable by the enemy that is under the genjutsu... SO yes, it is undetectable by the enemy... Only someone with the BG analyzing someone under Kotoamatsukami can detect it apparently...

This is canon... You just tried to take my statement out of context to make it illogical... nice try... Just because you make illogical statement doesn't mean everyone else does... You just have shit reading comp...
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