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Old 10-22-2012, 08:51 AM   #101
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Re: Secret behind Obito's Kamui?

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Originally Posted by kael03 View Post
I just want to point something out. You either didn't read num's post completely or misread a part. He never said that Mangastream had corrected mistakes in the past and conveniently neglected this one. In fact, the opposite was said:



Not only did he say that they never corrected the mistake (using Mangapanda's link, which used Mangastream's translation crew), he pointed out another mistake in the translation they never fixed in that same chapter.



Um...learn to use Occam's Razor correctly, nubcakes. Your usage of the name is wrong for the argument.

Also, according to the dictionary the term "derive" means:


In this case, Izanagi is obtained from the jutsu "Creation of All Things". It is not the same thing. The only thing that the original japanese claimed was that Danzo was using an incomplete version of Izanagi, but never specified what the complete version was.

Banbutsu Souzou is NOT Izanagi. Izanagi is a self-cast genjutsu that blurs illusion with reality to allow the user to escape death for a period of time. It does not create physical entities from nothing.
Listen dummy, try to make sense when you attempt to correct me. The fact that Mangastream never corrected this 'mistake', in the context I'm using it, proves my point. Namely, that if you rely on their translation, you will obviously be stating what I'm saying.

1. to receive or obtain from a source or origin (usually followed by from). 2. to trace from a source or origin. 3. to reach or obtain by reasoning; deduce; infer. 4. Chem. to produce or obtain (a substance) from another

From the dicitionary meaning of derive, if you had any sense like your hero Num you would conclude the following. According to the original Japanese, Izanagi comes from Banzou, and that's its origin and source. Now dummy, this is what you and Num are missing.

Going by what this translation and the meaning of derive is, the Sage's Izanagi is Banzou but Kishi has CALLED IT IZANAGI. Just lile how Amatersau is a Shinto god but in Kishi's manga, it is Ms jutsu, so to is Izanagi in this manga.

If only your idoitic child like mind can't understand that Kishi has coined the term Izanagi amd added Banzou properties to it, then this whole lil debate would be over. In Kishi's manga, Banzou is the Sage's Izanagi and the Uchiha kinjutsu Izanagi is radically differwnt from it.

How hard is that for you to understand? So when me and my man Kyf says, there are different versions of Izanagi in the MANGA, this is what we mean. For fuck sakes, are you lot that retarded that you don't get it?

Take the swatiska sign of the Nazi party. Originally it is a Hindu sign meaning honor and nobility. However, by the time of Hitler, it is and has forever become a sign of hatred. Get it. Its the SAME sign but to different people, it means completley different things. Like the cross is derived from the ankh and it means completley different things.

I thank Num for drawing attention to where Kishi got the idea of Izanagi from but I laugh at him for not understanding what we mean by the different versions of Izanagi. In the MANGA mate, in the bloody MANGA.

Now next time nubcakes(never heard of such a dumb term) come at me correctly and you'll be treated nicely, lol.

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