Originally Posted by Dagoro
Tell him feats or GTFO.
Madara's mokuton techs can be extended to Hashirama since they are essentially made possible by his genes. That giant forest jutsu that saturates the area with sleeping gas is by itself better than anything Hiruzen did offensively.
now he keeps saying Hiruzen beat a prime shodai and niidai. Completely ignoring the fact that they were basically bodyguards and mindless. Im done with that argument.