Originally Posted by minato uchiha
Ay along with other shinobi's, fought the Hachbi in the SPECIAL CHAMBER and Ay was able to cut one of his horns. Lol so how can you intrepret that as Ay beating the top Bijuu like a toy?
Also, who said his shroud was suppose to protect him from genjutsu? His speed was what protected him from it, since its nigh impossible to keep up with him. Other than that, his shroud gives him no special protection against it.
About speed: true Ay is the fastest since Minato in terms of raw movement, but he doesn't shit on all Uchiha's in all aspects of speed. Example, Itachi's movements and hand signs speed is faster than Ay's non dojutsu eyes to see. Tobi imo can warp just as fast if not faster than Ay in lv2.
Madara was trolling them and gauging their abilities, knowing that he had a regen body and unlimited chakra. If this was a mortal Madara in a fight to the death with Ay, his tactics and true speed would have being vastly different than what we saw.
And lets not forget Sasuke. He easily kept up with Ay in lv1, in fact he landed the first hit when they both chatged at each other. Furthermore, when Ay went to lv2 and dodged amatersau, Sasuke's reactions were still fast enough to activate enton before Ay was able to get to him.
Oh but that was the 'rave' when Raichu came out with the Lightening Shield, it was stated a bunch 'because of the lighnening he's impervious to genjutsu, it wouldn't work against him', anyone else remember that farce that was preached?
Additionally, speed...no.... when Sasuke and Raichu were charging each other Sasuke had the Sharingan advantage and dodged his blow, that has nothing to do with sheer speed. Sheer speed Sasuke couldn't track him, even with his Sharingan when Raichu was moving around to attack, thats why not only did Sasuke use Susannoo, additionally he had to throw Enton in because though he was impervious inside Susanno, I'm one to believe the power of the blows were so great that it made Sasuke use more charka on Susanno than his 'base skeleton protect mode' just to withstand it.
I said the Madara omnipotent thing can be the only thing, but no possible way even Madara could've kept up with Raichu on the move, additionally his power prolly meant nothing to Madara seeing the way he dispelled a Bijuu Rasengen like nothing though.
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