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Old 10-28-2012, 04:30 AM   #127
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Re: Secret behind Obito's Kamui?

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Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
@Wolverine: how can you say the Sage was never said to have used Izanagi, when the manga explicitly says, Izanagi was the physical application of the jutsu he used, called BS?
That is what I have been trying to tell you. The SOSP only used Banbutsu Sozo and not Izanagi. Izanagi is a separate jutsu that is derived from one half of BS as a whole.
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Do you get it? Let me think of an example to make it simpler. Err, ok, amatersau. Without Ms, you cannot perform amatersau. Without a certain type of Ms, you cant do amatersau. One is dependant of the other, no?

So its like that with BS and Izanagi. BS is the imagination, Izanagi is the fuel for that imagination. That's what the scan says. If Izanagi and BS weren't linked, it wouldn't even have mentioned Izanagi in the same sentence, describing what BS does.
Since you've been talking about analogies. Let me put it this way...

Let's take our resident carebears favourite jutsu for example - The Rasengan. Naruto can use the Rasengan and the Rasenshuriken. Jiraiya, on the other hand, can only use the former and not the latter. The Rasenshuriken involves both elemental and shape manipulation. Thus, the application of the fundamentals behind the Rasengan is only a part of that of Rasenshuriken. Thus, we can say that Jiraiya doesn't use Rasenshuriken like Naruto does. Only that the Rasengan is one part of the Rasenshuriken and a precursor.

The only difference here is that Rasenshuriken is derived from the Rasengan while in the case of BS and Izanagi, the converse is true. It doesn't, in any way, mean that both are the same. I hope you got the comparison.
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