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Old 11-12-2012, 10:26 AM   #9
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Re: Citizens from 15 states have filed petitions to secede from the United States

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That's actually a really bad idea kluang. If you look at it economically, and which states contribute to the GDP through manufacturing means and not through the financial sector (investing and big banks), you would want to keep the rest of the states and get rid of New York and Florida.

Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Georiga, Alabama, and Kentucky have the largest non-union workforces in the manufacturing sector (95% of all of your foreign car manufacturers are located in these states as well as their suppliers)
Hold your horses there, j_h, it's not because they have a good labor power than it'll suddenly make those states more desirable for the US than the others. Let's take this case by case.

Alabama:
  • Public debt of 60.4 billions
  • Tax net revenue of -23.7 billions
  • GDP of 174.4 billions
Colorado:
  • Public debt of 80.4 billions
  • Tax net revenue of +10.5 billions
  • GDP of 259.7 billions
Florida:
  • Public debt of 139.1 billions
  • Tax net revenue of -10.6 billions
  • GDP of 754.0 billions
Georgia:
  • Public debt of 97.5 billions
  • Tax net revenue of +4.1 billions
  • GDP of 403.1 billions
Indiana:
  • Public debt of 38.7 billions
  • Tax net revenue of -4.6 billions
  • GDP of 267.6 billions
Kentucky:
  • Public debt of 63.2 billions
  • Tax net revenue of -12.8 billions
  • GDP of 161.4 billions
Louisiana:
  • Public debt of 63.0 billions
  • Tax net revenue of -0.9 billions
  • GDP of 213.6 billions
Mississippi:
  • Public debt of 38.2 billions
  • Tax net revenue of -19.8 billions
  • GDP of 98.9 billions
Montana:
  • Public debt of 9.5 billions
  • Tax net revenue of -4.0 billions
  • GDP of 37.2 billions
New Jersey:
  • Public debt of 281.5 billions
  • Tax net revenue of +57.8 billions
  • GDP of 497.0 billions
New York:
  • Public debt of 305.3 billions
  • Tax net revenue of +86.8 billions
  • GDP of 1156.5 billions
North Carolina:
  • Public debt of 97.4 billions
  • Tax net revenue of +10.0 billions
  • GDP of 407.4 billions
North Dakota:
  • Public debt of 6.3 billions
  • Tax net revenue of -3.1 billions
  • GDP of 33.4 billions
Oregon:
  • Public debt of 58.0 billions
  • Tax net revenue of -1.8 billions
  • GDP of 168.9 billions
Texas:
  • Public debt of 282.6 billions
  • Tax net revenue of 53.4 billions
  • GDP of 1307.4 billions
If the US needed to get rid of states to balance finances, Alabama, Kentucky and Mississippi would be on the top of the list, while New York, North Carolina and Texas would be on the bottom.



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What doesn't surprise me is that this happens after every election. I remember during 2004 after the Bush/Kerry election, there were petitions going through the colleges in MS to have the state secede by the local Democrat student groups. Don't know to which states this notion expanded to, but it's not surprising.

Considering secession petitions are barking since the Civil War, I'm not surprised either.
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