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Originally Posted by Vengeance
Actually the Juubi is the progenitor as stated in the manga.

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Read what I posted again. Then read this page again. I said that chakra came from the Juubi, which is what Kurama said. "It is the beginning of all chakra". The Sage is the one that discovered the methods to use the chakra the Juubi created. Without the Sage's discovery, shinobi wouldn't exist (hell, people wouldn't exist).
Edit: In fact, here is the line specifically
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Originally Posted by kael03
The Juubi may be the source of chakra, but the Sage is the source of shinobi.
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Even bolded it, in case you missed it.