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Old 12-04-2012, 07:38 PM   #145
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Originally Posted by kael03 View Post
LMAO!!! I was referring to the speed of the technique, not the ability to read all of the needle like wind attacks when it explodes on contact.... which not even the SG reading is not something amazing... That is thousands upon thousands of wind needle attacks... How does the manga claim the FRS is faster then the SG can read because it couldn't track all of it's pieces of attacks... not the FRS itself...

That is just stupid....

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Originally Posted by jericho Uzimaki View Post
I don't think Madara set out to "gain DNA", I think he LOST and in a flare of brilliance he acquired some in the fight. I mean he went into hiding for goodness sake, sounds like he was either hurt so bad that the DNA is the only thing that saved him, or he got punk'd.I think he wanted to use infinite jutsu to put himself on top where he wanted to be.
Everything obito said about himself as madara is what actually happened... and he said that madara fought hashirama to gain his DNA... not for a match of strength...


See... The only reason madara hid was to experiment...the reason madara was in hiding and never made a move beyond giving nagato his eyes and creating the zetsu and bringing back the juubi's body... was because he had a plan and step one was the awakening of the Sage's doujutsu, the RG...
However, that first step took him almost until his natural death, thus unable to carry out the rest of the plan on his own...

So madara implanted his eyes in nagato, created akatsuki, recruited obito and used the zetsu to gather the beast in his absence, but was supposed to be revived by nagato when the time was right...

Madara was not hiding because he was defeated and afraid... It was strategic for the world to believe he was dead so he could work and pursue his plan without any trouble... However, when the time was right... madara's reputation was used perfectly by obito to force himself to be taken seriously enough to create a new war so he could gain the last two bijuu....

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The meteor dropping thing was an RG move. Madara was NOT more powerful than before when he used the DNA. it healed him and allowed him to live a very long time, not too long before he died is when he gained RG.
Proof the meteor summoning was a RG move??? Yea... all madara did was summon a mountain... That could be done by anyone with enough chakra and a blood contract with a mountain...
ANd yes, even the little DNA he gained from hashirama and put into his wound would power him up some... Just only enough though that it took many years for th epower to charge up enough to awaken the RG from his EMS...

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Look at how he is acting, if he had those abilities after he implanted "Hashigel instajutsu" he would have went BACK to KONOHA and killed Hashi and started taking over the ninja world while he was still young. That being said, he wouldn't NEED Juubi or the infinite daydream jutsu.
I think you are forgetting madara's GOAL... It is to gather the bijuu and revive the juubi and become it's jink to gain the power to create infinite tsukuyomi... Nothing else...
Even if madara had gained the RG instantly by implanting the small amount of hashirama cells... He would not of wanted a rematch or invaded konaha... He would gathered the tailed beast himself... as apart of his actual plan...

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You do realize that EMS was what he had when he was 2nd banana to Hashi when creating Konoha right? He was not unbeatable, he was just extraordinary when fighting one on one. Hashirama fought him one on one, his wife just sealed the fox within herself.
Hashirama did not fight madara one on one if his wife thought she had to interfere, sealing away madara's mobile nuke to help her husband... That is outside interference... making it two on one....
Think about it... if hashirama is so strong and was doing so well to beat madara then why did his wife have to step in to seal away madara's kyuui to assist hashirama???
And yes, it was to assist him, even kushina knew so...


In no way was madara the second banana... Madara proved he was stronger by fighting hashirama merely to gain his DNA, not even to annihilate him and he still needed his wives help to stop him... and could still only wound madara which was patched up quickly with his own DNA...

SO, madara fought hashirama to gain his DNA, he got it... while hashirama fought madara to kill him for good and even had his wife step in to help and still could only wound madara...

Nope, Madara WON... He achieved his goal, getting the DNA while all hashirama could do was wound madara when he was clearly trying to kill him...

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why take away from Hashirama because of it? You might as well take away from Madara since he used Kurama in the first place.
Madara defeated and tamed the kyuubi and thus was his own ninja weapon... The same way nagato tamed and gained control of all his summons making them his own weapons...

However, Mito Uzumaki is merely his wife and ally who stepped in to assist her husband which would not be necessary if hashirama was so strong that he could actually defend himself on his own, but clearly madara was too mcuh for him so madara is clearly the stronger shinobi getting what he wanted... hashi DNA...
and hashirama failed to kill madara even with his wife's help only wounding him... That is the reality of what happened...
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No matter how POWERFUL/STRONG you are. If you cannot CATCH your Enemy, all you POWER/STRENGTH is no more USEFUL then a squirt gun....
And if You cannot possibly TRACK/REACT to your enemies attacks to Defend yourself, then how can you possibly stop him from DEFEATING you at WILL...


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