Originally Posted by Numinous
I agree, but it's funny that, as of late, the manga only gets above decent in (most) flashbacks.
Yeah, that's why I find boring the versus debates on current characters. The two villains left and the second most important character have the Sharingan and it's so broken with all its I WIN jutsu that it becomes dull to even argue any fight involving an Uchiha, may the Uchiha win or not.
Understood with respect, I'm just the opposite of Tobirama, the only Senju that was nearly worth a half a damn in my book was Tsunade, and the Broad could barely fight. She was the main brain in the family, outside of battle tactics IMHO, the other 2 had leadership up the ying yang, but seemingly didn't give much of a damn about.... THE PEOPLE underneath their rule. At least one of them, whom pushed his hateful opinion toward others. It grew like a tall tree.
Dag, luv you like a brother but if you think I'm gonna let that Tobirama Waterfall Tech shit fly, you're crazy.
Yes, Amaretsu has been up and down, but like KYF states, Tobirama has absolutely zero defense against it, water means shit. The only thing that has actually extinguished it before has been Gaara's Sand... yes supreme bullshit to keep him in he clouds of power with heavyweights where he shouldn't be anymore.
Now heres Tobirama's stats:
Summoning: Impure World Reincarnation
Water Release: Gunshot
Water Release: Water Colliding Wave (Anime only)
Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique
Water Release: Water Encampment Wall
Water Release: Water Trumpet
Tobirama was undoubtedly an immensely powerful shinobi and was hailed as one of the most powerful shinobi of his era. During his lifetime, Tobirama created the Summoning: Impure World Reincarnation technique; however, never mastered it himself, though he did use it enough to be recognised by others for it. By simply touching the ground with his index finger, he could detect the presence and number of enemy shinobi, and according to Minato Namikaze, Tobirama was highly skilled in Space–Time Ninjutsu. Tobirama was also shown to have great physical prowess and a considerable amount of skill in the area of taijutsu, as well as good teamwork with his elder brother, Hashirama Senju. It was said that he wielded the Sword of the Thunder God, a blade with electrical abilities, and was said to have mastered its use despite the blade's lethal nature.
Tobirama was primarily known for his mastery of Water Release. He could perform powerful water-style techniques in areas that lacked bodies of water by creating his own water out of thin air or producing it from his mouth, and perform some of the most complex water-style techniques, such as the Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique, with a single hand seal. This amongst other reasons is why he is revered as the greatest known Water Release manipulator in the series.
In the anime, it is also shown that he can use the Water Release: Water Colliding Wave to attack and cover a large area with water. In areas with water, he can move underwater and stay for a considerable amount of time. Underwater, he can use jets of water to bring his target to him and after restrain them for trying to drown them or launch powerful missiles of water which can even pierce rocks. Also, it was shown that he was also a powerful genjutsu user, able to shroud the area in darkness that even the Third Hokage couldn't dispel.
Not ment to break rules or offend, but be fair to Tobirama Fans, to show true abilities created for the characters.
Okay, no walk in the park, but improved Sasuke...
Binding Snake Glare Spell
Blaze Release Magatama (Manga only)
Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi
Body Flame Technique
Chidori Sharp Spear
Cursed Seal of Heaven
Demonic Illusion: Shackling Stakes Technique
Evil Releasing Method (Manga only)
Fire Release: Dragon Fire Technique
Fire Release: Great Dragon Fire Technique
Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Fire Technique
Hidden Shadow Snake Hands
Manipulated Shuriken Technique
Manipulating Windmill Triple Blades
Naka Shrine Pass Technique (Manga only)
Pachinko Technique (Anime only)
Peregrine Falcon Drop (Anime only)
Shadow Shuriken Technique
Shadow of the Dancing Leaf
Shield of Black Flames
Summoning Technique (Hawks, Snakes)
Summoning: Lightning Flash Blade Creation
Sword of Kusanagi: Chidori Katana
Sasuke's already impressive speed saw a huge leap, able to evade attacks from the extremely fast Killer B and A, though he credited the evasion to his Sharingan reading the linear moves. He also greatly increased his hand speed, able to do many hand seals in a blur and launch an enormous amount of weapons just as quickly, as seen during his fight with Itachi. His speed and proficiency with the Body Flicker Technique have also grown considerably, able to easily cut his opponents down without them noticing. When first facing Team Kakashi in Part II, he showed himself able to cover wide gaps in the blink of an eye, giving his former allies no time to react.
Sasuke has shown a high level of stamina and endurance; at the Five Kage Summit, he was able to endure a consistent string of battles against the samurai, two Kage and their bodyguards before finally collapsing from exhaustion. In a near-blind, battered, and visibly exhausted state from his latter fight with Danzō and overusing the Mangekyō Sharingan, he still had enough stamina to fight against Kakashi, restrain and disarm Sakura and later match Naruto's Rasengan with his Chidori. His raw strength has also become noticeably greater, being able to lift Sakura by her throat into the air with a single hand even while exhausted. His overall improvements were so great that Sakura even suspected that he had been given drugs to improve his physical capabilities.
No walk in the park, but Sasuke would get em in my book, its up to interpretation though.