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Originally Posted by Numinous
I'm impressed that a debate of an invincible zombie vs the patron of all fantards is still raging on, as if any side could win.
But it's amusing to see the two most prominent dumbasses on opposite sides and pretty much at failing at making any point. And more amusing is to see one of them still having huge problems with the fallacy of composition. Just an hint: not all Doton use the Snake handseal and not all jutsu that use said handseal are Doton (there are in fact Fuuton, Katon and Suiton that use it), so labeling Edo Tensei a Doton just because it uses the Snake handseal is completely erroneous and idiotic to begin with.
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Lol, because Edo tensai was performed with an Earth seal doesn't mean it's earth element related... Really, for someone who speaks of using Logic. You sure do not seem to be abiding by your own words.
And last I checked, I did not say simply because an earth seal is used, that Edo Tensai is likely earth element related... Learn to read! I said that plus the fact that Edo's actually use earth for their bodies...
How does...
: The Use Of an Earth seal...
: then a body of earth being used...
Not imply that ET could very well be a form of earth jutsu??? And I do not recall someone using an earth seal to use a different element... Please prove...
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Originally Posted by ask me anything
I couldn't care less about this debate or getting into any kind of conversation with KYF for that matter, but I just got to point out one thing I know to be absolutely false.
^This. I don't know how many times I've seen Kyf and others make this claim that Sasuke has some sort of alternate dimension he can go to. No...that's Tobito. Sasuke has never had (and hopefully will never have) that ability.
Sasuke escaped Deidara's blast by jumping in Manda's mouth and unsummoning him back where he came from, which is NOT an alternate dimension. It has already been shown that summoning animals exist on the same exact world as the rest of the cast. This was made evident by Pa Toads' own words that it would normally take 1 month on foot to reach their mountain hideout. Just recently it was shown that by researching Juugos' chakra Orochimaru was able to find the source of it, went on a journey to Ryuchidou for the same reason.
I'll take the chocolate flavor.. ...with vanilla wafers on top  . |
Sasuke "flew" as in Transported himself and manda into a different space. It even says so...
http://www.mangapanda.com/93-368-14/...apter-363.html
Clearly sasuke has a Time space jutsu where he can transport himself into another dimension, but requires either a clone of himself or someone with his blood to summon him back from that dimension...
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Originally Posted by kael03
You missed a lot apparently. As Num pointed out, the Snake seal is used in conjunction with other elements besides Doton. Also, that's not even the snake seal. The order of seals for Edo Tensei goes: Tiger > Snake > Dog > Dragon > clap hands (which is what we see Kabuto doing from the translator's note "sfx: clap").
Edo Tensei is NOT a doton. It is S/T. We have never seen the same technique from 2 different elements. And I seriously doubt we ever will.
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The tiger-snake-dog-dragon clap is how to end the jutsu, not how to create it... Kabuto was shown using an earth seal, then the sacrifice was overcome with earth that created the revived shinobi's body and form...
Clearly earth element is involved in the creation of the jutsu otherwise an earth seal and use of earth would not be needed...
And just because Edo tensai is already a summoning variation jutsu and thus a Time space jutsu... Doesn't mean it cannot be an elemental jutsu as well...
Look at amaterasu... It is clearly a Katon jutsu, but the flames are ignited onto the target with mere focus of the eye... which is basically summoning flames onto the point of focus, not moving the attack through space to hit the enemy like a standard katon jutsu... which would technically make amaterasu a form of time space jutsu..
So if amaterasu can be a Time space katon jutsu then why couldn't Edo Tensai be a Doton time space jutsu???
And not to mention that ET is likely a senjutsu technique as well... I came to this conclusion due to the fact that Tobirama created the ET jutsu, but could not finish it making it practical and applicable as a ninjutsu... But, Orochimaru was able to finish the jutsu... then Kabuto was able to take it to whole other level...
ANd Oro is a snake Sage and kabuto is a dragon sage, even beyond Oro as a sage... Thus ET must be a senjutsu technique since only sage's have been able to actually use the jutsu...