Fandom Forums - View Single Post - Naruto 642
Thread: Naruto 642
View Single Post
Old 08-08-2013, 03:30 PM   #80
kael03
Aspiring Physicist
 
Join Date: May 2010
Age: 28
Posts: 4,691
Thanks: 4,760
Thanked 8,718 Times in 3,842 Posts
kael03 is a jewel in the roughkael03 is a jewel in the roughkael03 is a jewel in the roughkael03 is a jewel in the roughkael03 is a jewel in the roughkael03 is a jewel in the rough
Re: Naruto 642

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanericuser View Post
First of all, didn't Jiraiya need them in the first place just to go into sage mode.
No, he had been trying to gather the chakra to enter sage mode. But Pain had him constantly moving.

Quote:
They were the ones that helped to manage it but as a result he entered a partially transformed state because he also merged with two toads.
Again, they were only brought in because he couldn't keep moving and gather the required chakra. His appearance was due to not having learned how to perfect the balance of chakra.

Quote:
His appearence was also very snake like.
That's primarily due to his body containing Orochimaru's cells.

Quote:
Then there is the fact that you need the animals attached just to be able to gather sage chakra while moving. Naruto can't do that because he has the kyubi which is why he has only a partial transformation where he gathers just enough that he can manage the chakra but he doesn't have the full sage ability to gather chakra while moving.
You really don't read the manga, do you? Pa explained that one cannot move, at all, in order to gather Sage chakra. No matter what, a Sage cannot gather Sage chakra while moving. It's one of the downsides to using Sage mode in a battle, it takes time to prepare for it. That is why Jiraiya would fuse with Ma and Pa, so they could gather the chakra and give it to him while he fought. Naruto, because he couldn't fuse with Ma and Pa, came up with the solution of the clones gathering the chakra, then being dismissed so it would go back to him.

Quote:
I think orochimaru is in the same boat which is why in some cases you see him standing still alot until he wants to use those high end abilities of his. Then when he needs to gather again he stops and waits while gathering.
Except Orochimaru was never a sage. He didn't have the body for it. That was made obvious by Kabuto.
kael03 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to kael03 For This Useful Post:
ckraizitee (08-15-2013), NeoKakarott023 (08-08-2013), Numinous (08-08-2013), platinumrug (08-08-2013)