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Old 09-09-2013, 02:21 PM   #4
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Debate: Speed Vs Power/Strength...

Since this has become such a debated topic, I felt the need to create this thread instead of spamming others...

Speed/Hiraishin jutsu Vs Power/Strength. in reference to Minato Vs Hashirama and EMS Madara

Power/strength are physical skills that increase the force of a technique.
The more power one has, the more destructive force one can produce for their technique. ANd the stronger one is, the harder they can hit, more they can lift, ect.
The Obvious COUNTER to power/strength is Speed... Because what good is the most powerful/strongest technique in the universe if it cannot even hit the enemy beucase they have the SPEED to easily avoid it.

But, Speed. Speed is the Physical skill that allows one to effectively apply ones techniques as well as avoid the enemies which is what its about.
The more speed you have, the more effectively you can apply your techniques and avoid the enemies.
ANd when you have such a level of speed that the enemy cannot even Begin REACT to your attacks, much less track them. You are able to apply your technique at will pretty much...

The normal counter for speed is...
: Timing (timing their attacks)
: Immobilization (immobilize the enemy so they cannot use their speed.

However, this is not Normal high speed.
: You cannot time something you cannot even track, much less react to.
: And you cannot immobilize something that can use time and space to move between many counties in an instant.

Therefore, the Only TRUE counter for minato's Speed is....
: Future reading to know what is going to happen before it does in order to anticipate the attacks of the speed user...


Power/strength is a great physical skill to have, but is you do not have the speed to even apply those powerful/strong techniques. All that power/strength is useless...

EXAMPLE 1:
: Hashirama with all his power creates a forrest to attack Minato, but it lacks in speed compared to Minato. And MInato, with his crazy time space speed coupled with his physical speed/reflexes can use hiraishin level 2 to blitz throw a Kunai over the Forrest, teleport to the Kunai, then throw one directly to hashirama below him to land a blitzing Kunai attack all within a small instant...

NOTE: MInato at base threw a Kunai from the current battle field to the sea in a matter of seconds in order to place a seal to teleport away the Jubidama so his Kunai throwing speed is crazy fast.

ANd the time it takes Minato to throw two kunai and teleport twice is about the same time it took Minato to counter V2 raikage which was so fats not even V2 raikage with his level of reflexes could even react at all, thus there is no way that hashirama can react in time making his huge forrest creation attack useless...
: FLower world KO pollen could not even hurt the gokage while Minato can use his t/s barrier to draw it in and release it back onto hashirama or his clones.
: Minato's shushin is so fast compared to hashirama's that is the fight statrts at 10-15 Meters. Minato will just use his shushin to tag hashirama before he can react and the fight is over...
: Plus the FACT that Minato has a defensive range of many countries because he has tags all over them to use if he is in trouble against a large scale attacks. Meaning he can easily avoid ANY Buddha summon attacks while leaving kage bushins to tag the Buddha summon, move around using hiraishin level 2 to got above the Buddha summon all so hashirama can be Touched/taged which is all it takes to beat even hashirama in SM...

CONCLUSION:
Because speed is the physical skill that increases the ability to apply jutsu and power/strength just increase the force of the jutsu, not application coupled with the fact a Kunai is enough to Kill pretty much anyone (even tsunade cutting he head off or dismembering her as proven by edo madara).

Minato has the advantage over everyone... Including even hashirama... because even with the power of 1000 Juubi JINKS. If you are too slow to apply that power/strength while too slow to defend against the attacks of the energy then how are you supposed to win?

EXAMPLE 2:
EMS madara with all his power with perfect susanoo and the Kyuubi is a force to be retcon with, but his speed/reflexes are not even enough to possibly compete against V1 raikage. Madara did no better then C2 Juugo.

Madara can use perfect susanoo to super slash attack Minato with mountain killing slashes yet due to his speed using hirahsin and reflexes coupled with tags/seals all over many countrues to use for defense against large scale attacks. Minato can dodge them all day every day....

And due to Minato's Hirahsin ability to teleport away his target without even touching them, thus can teleport either perfect susanoo or madara himself to another location leaving madara completely vulnerable to a blitz attack or at the lest, get TOUCHED and that is all it takes...

Coupled with Minato Only having to touch Madara to break the control seal he has on the Kyuubi means Minato will gain an ally for the fight.
And MInato + full power Kyuubi Vs EMS madara that cannot effectively use perfect susanoo is boned...

CONCLUSION:
Due to MInato able to teleport between countries to avoid large scale attacks, easily dodge amaterasu, break any genjutsu by teleporting away from the genjutsu user , thus regaining his nervous system and chakra control coupled with minato's ability to teleport away the target through indirect contact, therefore, teleport either perfect susanoo or madara to another location then attack madara directly, tag him and break the contract with the Kyuubi so madara loses control over him.

minato's speed because of his reflexes and hirashin makes him even able to beat the likes of EMS madara+Kyuubi and even SM hashirama...
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KNOWLEDGE TO LIVE BY...

No matter how POWERFUL/STRONG you are. If you cannot CATCH your Enemy, all you POWER/STRENGTH is no more USEFUL then a squirt gun....
And if You cannot possibly TRACK/REACT to your enemies attacks to Defend yourself, then how can you possibly stop him from DEFEATING you at WILL...


MINATO "KYF" NAMIKAZE.

People live relying on they're Knowledge and Perception, and thus are bound to them.....
Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
However..... Knowledge and Perception are both ambiguous....
so "Reality" could be nothing more....
then an illusion....


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