Originally Posted by MrBIG
Harashima has the largest charka level of any living ninja right now (excluding ten tails).
The idea he could increase his speed with that seemingly endless supply of chakra isn't a stretch but can actually be EXPECTED.
Look at Gai or Lee when they open the first few gates and get access to more chakra, or Naruto when he unlocks the Kyuubi's chakra for use. They all get a tremendous boost in Speed and Strength.
The First Hokage surpasses all of them in that regard. No one in their right mind can possibly think Minato could beat the first with a couple of kunais.
Not to mention Hashirama is a god damn tank on both the offensive end and defensive end. Minato wouldn't stand a chance.
Originally Posted by liondemon
Raikage said Minato is the only ninja faster than him. Someone at the summit mentioned that Raikage's chakra was at buuji levels during the summit. Killer B has buuji level chakra, 8 tail buuji, and his tentacle moved fast enough to knock his brother out of the way of Minato's kunai while Minato was already in the process of striking down at Rai's back. I'm referring to the manga panel you posted in the other thread. And I would assume that if you're trying to stab someone as fast as the Raikage in the back, you would do so as fast as you possibly can.
edit- Actually, I believe that Rai said that Minato was the only with comparable speed to him, but the point still stands. Buuji levels of chakra appears to be able to make for super fast ninja. As EOJ is quoted as stating in my sig, Minato was not short on chakra himself.
Power/strength and speed have been increased with chakra in this manga. The first Hokage has more chakra than Rai, Killa B, Minato, and everyone else except for Obito at the moment. The first Hokage thus has the potential to be more powerful/stronger and faster than Minato.
Again with the stupid, hashirama has more chakra then anyone thus should be able to be faster... Despite the fact with all his power, he cnanot even move faster then madara, who could not even possibly compete with V1 raikage LMAO...
All that chakra hashirama has still did not allow him to out shushin Minato, who arrived like 30 seconds before him while hashi arrived at the same time the other 3 kage's did...
FACE it, you making an argument form nothing with no evidence to back it up because REFLEXES have correlated with physical speed, not POWER...
And Raikage is not the second fastest due to his POWER level, but his Lightning chakra that Increases his REFLEXES to Move faster LMAO... Proving my point even further...
If and's or But's Mean nothing... FEATS are what matters and hashirama's Physical Speed/reflexes feats are average kage level like hiruzen, tobirama and madara who he has proven he equals in speed...
By your own Logic, with the Kyuubi's power in BM. mInato should be able to move so physically fast that he makes Obito look like he is standing still, but that is not how it works. Reflexes increase spee dore then anything.
ANd the reason why naruto got so fast in KCM is because the Kyuubi power is full of life energy that activates the body, thus reflexes to increase speed.
So enough... Minato's physical speed/reflexes>>hashirama's. And when you add in hiraishin mInato's speed>>>>>>>hashirama's... Accept it..