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Old 09-11-2013, 01:48 PM   #32
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Re: Debate: Speed Vs Power/Strength...

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Originally Posted by liondemon View Post
The manga you keep talking about, the good book, is full of inconsistencies and contradictions. Killa B has already shown to move at least his tentacle faster than Minato can forcibly stab downward at a target just about a foot or so beneath him.
LMAO, did I just read this? You do realize that MInato was going to double handed stab the raikage, but reacted to the incoming tentacle, kicked rai out of the way then cut the tentacle in half so hard to left a small crater in the ground...
It is not like minato was going to stab raikage then B reacted, shot his tentacle to minato because it is that fast LMAO... It's called a team attack... V2 raikage being the faster shinobi arrived first with the tentacle following behind. WTF kind of interpretation....

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Manga panels in this good book show only partial action that isn't always very graphic, and they sometimes change the story as the years pass. Common sense says that the strongest, most respected shinobi of any generation known to the current ninjas is the 1st Hokage, a man with more chakra than the almighty nine tails, and the same man who the manga bible showed us and has told us has made the Kyubbi, who stabbed Minato in the gut, his bitch in the past.
1). LMAO... So Hype is all you have because feats show that hashirama will get Touched, thus tagged and since a Kunai can kill him. WIll die when Minato blitzes him.
Coupled with the FACT Minato has tags all over the fire country and other to teleport to in order to avoid even SM levle attacks form hashirama so MInato cannot evne be touched while able to easily blitz kill HIm yet I am supposed to believe form hype that Minato<hashirama anyways....

2). Kyuubi made who, what? You want to know how BIAS you are against Minato... Minato onwed the Kyuubi eaisly without even a KKG like what hashirama has, then when out of chakra, used his body as a shield to protect his son on purpose, then seal the other half of the Kyuubi on naruto...

Minato was not hit due to speed/reflexes... He could have easily avoided the Kyubi nail attack. It is just that he was already doomed after using the shiki fuujin thus used himself as a shield to protect naruto...

Yet somehow in your BIAs reality, that was mInato getting owned...

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I actually get what you are saying about reflexes and manga panels and all that, but common sense still favors the almighty 1st Hokage. No matter how fast Minato is, reflexes and moving speed, there is no way that the 1st has no defense for Minato and cannot set a trap for Minato and all his speed and s/t jutsu. Kishi would never draw a fight scenario where Minato marks the 1st or the ground around the 1st and then kills the 1st on what would have to be his first try, since the first has inadequate speed and reflexes to at least defend himself, according to you. Common sense says that in a battle, there would be nothing Minato could do from which the first could not defend himself. And if the 1st is fast enough to defend himself, which he has the chakra to do longer than Minato has the chakra to keep attacking, the 1st has the better chance of winning the fight.
Are you listening to yourself?

Although Minato has such super speed/reflexes able to easily own hashirama, and hashi does not have the speed/reflexes to react to Minato;s attacks. hashirama will still magically defend himself and not get Touched by the fastest man ever, thus get Kunai blitzed and since a Kunai is proven to be enough to kill hashirama... This is osmehow your conception of common sense...
minato can obviously win without having to resort to shiki fuujin... just accept it. Hashirama is not that great...

SO it comes down to either mInato wins or no one wins due to shiki fuujin because how can hashirama beat someone he cannot even catch since minato has tags all over the fire country and other countries to use for teleporting away form large scale attacks...
and because all Minato has to do is touch hashirama, and he has kage bushins he cna use for that too who can all do the same things the original can. Thus, hashirama is going to get touched and thus get Kunai blitzed and lose...

How does hashirama beat someone he cannot possibly catch or defend against?
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No matter how POWERFUL/STRONG you are. If you cannot CATCH your Enemy, all you POWER/STRENGTH is no more USEFUL then a squirt gun....
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