Re: Debate: Speed Vs Power/Strength...
I'll just say this, and this has happened to everyone at least once in their life... every person has at least once exclaimed, "Oh God," whether in pain or enjoyment.
That said, HR and Mr. Big... you guys are barking up the wrong tree when it comes to atheism, agnosticism, and theism when it comes to guys like Num, kael, AOTK, and so forth. There once was a thread completely dedicated to the topic (did it survive the site crash???). If any of the guys have a "change of heart", they'll look for that answer or support of it. Otherwise, if your goal is to "open their minds/hearts", you're actually hurting your cause by the course you are pursuing.