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Old 09-21-2013, 01:50 PM   #1419
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Originally Posted by NeoKakarott023 View Post
KYF, you're speaking so much on the greatness of Raichu's Raiton Shield, can you tell me what it actually did besides keep the Dude alive? Vs. Sasuke you're V1 was slower than Sasuke whom avoided (the sharingan only showed him what was coming, his body then moved) Raichu's blow and then pierced the shield. No Sasuke didn't go all the way through the chest like he did with Naruto at Vote, but Raichu's chest was pierced, therefore it failed. Additionally said Shield was activated when Amaretsu was all over his arm, you know the one that had to be chopped off, so the Shield did nothing there.
WTF does raikage having two different lightning armour Versions have to do with V1 raikage getting chidori to pierce a couple inches into it, but not even actually injure the raikage...
And Raikage's V2 raiton armour stopping amayersu from burning him, but having to remove his arm to keep the flames from spreading, thus engulfing him so when his shield fails he dies... Do not forget that Rai cannot hendge any of his lightning armour to get rid of flames, thus even though it can stop the flames form burning him... when the y spread and the chiled falis form lack of chakra. Raikage would die... making the removal of the arm the ONLY choice to live...

Again, What does this have to do with their being two different lighniing armour versions?

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Raichu lit up and moved fast, I'd think he'd expect moar with this tech. Vs. Naruto/KB, he had said Shield up again and lost in the Lariat battle, and then according to you he went into the famed 'Version 2'.... and Naruto got past him, just like his Dad, whom also own'd him. Vs. Madara one can excuse the 'thinking about Tsunade, wanting to save Her' shit all they want, but Raichu couldn't dodge according to others post A REGULAR SHARINGAN GENJUTSU inside that great Shield. So besides it being awesome against lessor thans, why my friend are you putting up billboards for this wack shit?
LMAO, yuur using circumstantial failures by the riakage to ty an prove there is not two different versions of lightning amrour the riakage uses despite the FACT it is shown multiple times..

1). KB beat riakage in a lariat due to pure PLOT!!! Notice the raikage's using freaking ligtning element that can pierce anything, even going through Juugo's C2 Sage mode defense and into his chest easily... as shown herehttp://www.mangapanda.com/93-31099-3...apter-462.html
Yet magically when it hit base KB's neck, it did nothing like remove his head like it should have LMOA... Due to obvious PLOT BS!!!

2). Naruto could not evne get past V1 riakage that sasuke was able to do... ANd then, Using a FULL SPEED HEAD START coupled with movig ahead of the V2 punch and a shushin allowed naruto to avoid a single punch form V2 riakage, not even move as fast as V2, otherwise naruto would not need the head start at full speed ahead of rai's attack and the shushin...


Minato did not need a full speed head start ahead of the raikage's attack to track then avoid his attack... Twice, from a STATIONARY position (which is how naruto was when he could not even get past V1 riakage consistently) minato was able to track and dodge, rai's V2 fastest attack which is something naruto cannot claim needing a full speed head start ahead of rai's attack plus a shushin just to avoid hi single punch...

3). Raiakge got distracted by tsunade spitting up blood being in trouble which got him caught by a susnaoo so he could not move, then he was hit with TSUKUYOMI from the madara clone while only in V1...


And an MS/EMS Genjutsu that hits the enemy, paralyzing them in an INSTANT, causing them to collaspe to the ground is the exact description of the basic Tsukuyomi as described by Black zetsu/Madara himself, here...

I do not understand why so many actually think Itachi's version of tsukuyomi is the ACTUAL tsukuyomi when danzou and even Obito have confirmed it is a more powerful version where the perception of time is altered ANd black zetsu confirmed that tsukuyomi is supposed to hit the enemy instantly, leaving them paralyzed unable ot move, causing them to collapse to the ground...
Just as sasuke did to KB and SHI as well as Edo Madara clone to V1 Raikage...


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Call me a Hater all day, but everytime he has been on panel, he has failed or been defeated... oh my bad, with help from KB he merc'd a Zetsu Clone... Badass!
How does Rai;s success or failure have to do with him having a version 1 and version 2 lightning armour mode? Your making a FALSE ATTRIBUTION argument... WHich is a fallacy, thus UNREASONABLE...

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Originally Posted by DRAGONBPY View Post
KCM isn't v1 and BM isnt v2. One deals with using the chakra of the beast while the other deals with actually turning into the beast (either in chakra or full flesh). Seems like you ignored my point which said that Kishi always tells us when v2 is used. He said it for CM, the different Jinchuriki forms and he said it for your favourite jutsu FTG. Just because you put more chakra into a jutsu doesn't automatically make it a new jutsu or form.
LAMO, by your logic of kishi not stating it, there is no difference between V1 Imperfect Juubito before he gained control over the juubi's power and V2 Perfect Juubito when he did... Just because it IS NOT STATED!!!
Despite the obvious difference in appearance and physical performance of the two versions...

And the same is for the riakage... In Version 1/basic Lightning armour. The riakage uses ONLY SOME of his lightning chakra to increase his speed/reflexes and defense for combat, but still is not even fast enough to outmaneuver sasuke who can track him using his SG and move faster with his level of speed/reflexes...

Version 2 lightning armour is the riakage using his MAX power level of lightning armour that is Bijuu chakra levels!!! Which ccuases his lightning shroud to double in size as well as make his hair stand up on end like a SSJ mode coupled with increased speed/reflexes so fast that the SG cannot possibly follow and sasuke cannot even begon to be able to compete against such speed...

SO Obvious differnce between the two versions... As different as a basic rasengan an an oodama rasengan... as put by HR, but all this is ignored and somehow you find a way to cherry pick all this info enough to keep Believe there is no difference between V1 and V2 lightning amour modes despite the difference in appearance as well as physical performance fromm V2 Vs V1...

Again, when you draw a conclusion based on the LACK of a STATEMENT, it is an ARGUMENT FROM SILENCE,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_silence
thus a fallacy, therefore UNREASONABLE factually... Your argument is factually unreasonable and yet you keep using it despite me able to prove this...
Arguing with a fallacious argument is not reasonable... And your goal is to be reasonable, thus you clearly need to abandon this fallacious argument...
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