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Old 09-24-2013, 03:06 PM   #170
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Re: Debate: Speed Vs Power/Strength...

you really butcherd this poppular quote by trying to insert "free will" in it.

if free will is applied and he's omnibenevolent, then he isn't omnipotent since he isn't capable of intervening even with free will
He chooses NOT to intervene so we are capable of making our own choices.
Omnipotence doesn't stop inaction.
; if free will is applied and he's omnipotent, then he isn't omnibenevolent because he has the capacity of intervening even with free will but doesn't do so.
He is omnibelovent because he chooses not to sacrifice our freewill by intervening. Free will being the most important characteristic to humans (and maybe every living creatures). It's the very basis of freedom.

Actively intervening in our affairs would only create an false peace. Peace from fear of god's divine intervention isn't peace at all.

It would be a keen to a totalitarian government regime. Sure no war, no famine, etc, all coming at the cost of the ability to make your own choices in life.

And, to be honest, I've seen people excusing child rape with free will, so fuck that notion.
Don't even know where you're going with that one. In fact it further proves my point on how free will is important considering rape is sexual intercourse without consent (read: will) of one of the participants.

Too bad the Bible is packed with verse condemning unbelievers to death and/or God's smite. So if that's not the view of most Christians or the Pope's, please update your moral codex.
If you're questioning the validity of my statement about the Pope's views then you're wrong.

"Given and this is the fundamental thing that God's mercy has no limits, if He is approached with a sincere and repentant heart," the pope wrote, "the question for those who do not believe in God is to abide by their own conscience. There is sin, also for those who have no faith, in going against one's conscience. Listening to it and abiding by it means making up one's mind about what is good and evil." The Guardian

In short, You may believe in god or not, whats most important is your actions in the eyes of God.
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