Originally Posted by Konnaha_yellow_flash
Did you forget that Juha bach had his clone sternriter to fight yamamoto in order to force him to show his bankai so Juha could take it in order to weaken Yamamoto, thus Juha bach could not beat Yamamoto without weakening him meaning yama was strong enough to beat him with his fire zanpakto...
So clearly Yama was so strong that Juha had to steal his bankai to beat him oterhwise what is the point...
Man, you really don't pay attention to the manga. Juha didn't have his copy force Yamamoto to use bankai to weaken him. He knew full well that only he could steal Yama's bankai successfully. He was just distracted by aizen and yama thought he fighting the real one.