Originally Posted by Numinous
Sorry, but your poor reading comprehension isn't manga canon. Manga canon never stated that Uzumaki=Senju.
What part of Senju and Uzumaki being relatives and Nagato being Senju does not mean Uzumaki=Senju didn't get into your thick skull?
Oh and nice job making a MS Paint job on a panel that I linked in my previous post, thus knowing that it exists. What a moron.
This whole quote reeks of confirmation bias. I've already said that the common ancestry with the Younger Son, who was stated to have the abilities of both Senju and Uzumaki, explains their similarity and even gave the example of apes but nope, you didn't give a single fuck to a much more coherent answer and simply went with your conclusion and tried to twist the data in order to fit in.
Please provide the panels where it is stated that Uzumaki branched off the Senju and that Uzumaki=Senju. Because all I know is that Kishi stated that Senju and Uzumaki are distant relatives and that Nagato was claimed to be Uzumaki and Senju.
So you justify your conclusion with your conclusion? Well, ain't that a pretty circular reasoning you got there!
So you're a chimpanzee because humans are related to them through a common ancestor? I dislike the fact that I have to make analogies in the interspecies level, but you don't seem to acknowledge how flawed your reasoning is if I don't make it absurdly clear.
Again, their common ancestor was STATED to have such abilities, so they can be separate clans and have such abilities since they have that common ancestor.
Again, Nagato being Senju doesn't make all Uzumaki Senju, that's a fallacy of composition.
So yeah, all your 4 examples (not 5, you illiterate bum) are simply spawned from your lack of reading comprehension.
Nice try, but your fan theories aren't canon. All this yin/yang bullshit about the Elder and Younger sons is not mentioned at all in the manga, so I'll treat it as it is, unsubstantiated speculation.
Also, yet another genealogy failure by you. Let's say your granddaughter marries a guy and they have a kid with a different surname then yours, do you suddenly have that surname? No? It's the exact same with the Sons and the Uchiha/Senju/Uzumaki: just because the three clans spawned from them does NOT make them part of those clans. Their clan was already revealed, it's the Ootsutsuki clan.
Panel proof please. All that was said is that the Uchiha clan came from him.
Again, panel proof please. What was said is that the Senju AND Uzumaki came from him.
It was said that he was Uzumaki in one instance and that he was Senju in another. Considering that it both clans already showed signs of union (Tsunade and Nawaki) and NOTHING was said about Uzumaki=Senju, the most logical conclusion is that Nagato was too from both clans.
What's with you and trying to deny very apt analogies with completely arbitrary excuses? If donkeys and horses are capable of having bloodlines and interbreeding and Narutoverse characters are capable of sexual reproduction, what's the issue? What's your major malfunction, numbnuts?
Now you're trying to say analogies are sources of info. There aren't enough facepalms in the world for this kind of arrogance and/or stupidity.
Oh, please, do provide me the panel where it says that Nagato as an Uzumaki and not as himself belongs to the Senju bloodline. Really, I want to see that on black over white.
j-H: sorry, I always forget to put it on mangapanda. It's just that mangareader loads faster for me, that's why I have it bookmarked.
I do not give a shit about any of this BS, I refer you to the repost I made to kal...
And confirming nagato as an UZUMAKI then Confirming that nagato as an Uzumaki belongs to the SENJU BLOODLINE, not is ALSO A SENJU, is clearly the confirmation of Uzumaki=senju connected through the younger son of the sage's bloodline/Senju bloodline...
Keep up the mental gymnastics trying to use "nagato (uzumaki even wih RED hair) belongs to the SENJU BLOODLINE, thus only he and madara can use the gedo mazo" means that Nagato is an Uzumaki and Senju LMAO... despite all evidence showing he is just UZUMAKI with the RED hair...
However, due to Uzumaki=Senju by both being the same bloodline and power... Uzumaki is Senju... Thus nagato, naruto, mito, kushina and even karin are actually SENJU... They are the SAME BLOOD, SAME POWER and SAME ABILITIES with just a Different NAME...