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Old 09-30-2013, 12:57 PM   #11
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Re: Why Tobirama and Hashi>>>Minato.

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Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
Tobirama invented FTG and imo is more proficient in using it than Minato.
You are already incorrect...

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pro·fi·cien·cy
prəˈfiSHənsē/Submit
noun
1.
a high degree of competence or skill; expertise.
FTG level 1...
1). Tobirama can only use the FTG level 1, but without Kunai to increase his range at will... Tobirama can ONLY use the FTG level 1 by directly touching someone...
2). Tobirama can only teleport 1 thing at a time while minato can teleport a whole freaking army....
3). minato can even teleport things away with INDIRECT contact, thus do not even have to directly touch them, just touch something touching them to teleport them away...
4 coupled with Minato's super reflexes on par with V2 raikage to activate the FTG far quicker then tobirama can with his average reflexes..
CONCLUSION:
Minato even with level 1 FTG which is the ONLY level of FTG that tobirama can even use, has a way higher level of skill then tobirama with it... showing hes more proficient with just Level 1 FTG...

However, Minato also has Level 2 FTG which is minato teleporting to Moving Kunai which tobirama cannot even do...
Plus level 3 which is minato's ability to create a timer space barrier to teleport thing without even touching or tagging them... something tobirama cannot do either...

THUS PROVING MINATO'S SKILL WITH JUST LEVEL 1 IS FAR GREATER THEN TOBIRAMA'S COUPLED WITH SUCH A HIGHER LEVEL OF SKILL THAT HE HAS A 2ND AND 3RD LEVEL WHICH TOBIRAMA DOES NOT PROVING THAT MINATO'S PROFICIENTCY WITH THE FTG IS>>>TOBIRAMA'S EASILY...

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They both can tag anything they touch so the only real difference is HOW they incorporate it with their jutsu. Whereas Minato uses kunai's to teleport, the 2nd uses clones and being a Senju and INVENTOR of the Kage Bushin, he can summon multiple clones at once, making his tactics far more superior than Minato's. Tobirama also has a Ftg type charge jutsu that he used to kill Izuna. Minato has NO such pure speed charging jutsu.
1). You have to be kidding... There is a HUGE difference which I posted up there^^ previously showing how little you know about the FTG compared to Minato's Vs tobirama's...
2). Minato can use kage bushin as well so you know very little again... and Minato can easily summon many kage bushin's at once with his beyond base naruto power level so do not even...
3). The HirashinGiri is not a pure SPEED jutsu, WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
It is tobirama after having tagged izuna, using level 1 FTG then using a sword slash once he arrives to slash the enemy...

What manga are you reading...!?!?

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http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/624/12

Tobirama invented Edo Tensei and contrary to popular opinion, it was NOT a weak or imperfect jutsu. We know this from the reaction of the revived kages who all commented that this is the infamous jutsu of the 2nd.
LMAO, the 2nd CREATED the jutsu, but Orochimaru PERFECTED it, this is common knowlegde and some bas interpretation cannot change this, I am sorry... Manga concisely and clearly makes it clear...


And since Perfection increases the strength of the edo's, the imperfect edo's even below the ones that fought hiruzen, are freaking weak in comparison to the real shinobi, thus are like summoning genin level shinobi to fight for you which is not goign to make much of a difference...

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The 2nd also has incredible sensing abilities something that is light years ahead of Minato's limited finger sensing and add to everything stated above, imo Tobirama is CLEARLY superior to Minato.
Tobirama's sensing is literally the ONLY thing tobirama has beyond what minato does, but makes little difference considering the sensing is LIMITED by tobirama's average kage level reflexes to react...

And I have to disagree...
minato vs tobirama with abilities and feats
FTG level 1 tobi vs FTG level 1, 2 and 3 minato=Minato obviously wins with his levle 1 already way more effective then tobirama, thus the other 2 levels just make it that much more clear how ridiculously above tobi with the FTG he is...
Physical speed/reflexes of tobirama vs Minato=tobirama is no faster then his brother could is not faster then madara who could not even compete against V1 raikage, yet Minato easily able to react and physically move many times in the perceived instant it takes V2 riakage to move just a couple feet to completely own shows minato's>>Tobirama's easily...
And if you still do not believe then I refer you to V1 Juubito easily owning tobirama in one shot with his speed, yet the same level of speed attack was brushed off by Minato and his clone, While busy focusing on using his new jutsu too...
Brute strength/power of tobirama vs Minato= Tobirama has no real strength/power feats while Minato's basic rasengan has destructive power beyond the oodama rasengan and sage double rasengan so I will have to give it to Minato showing power beyond base level naruto and even a sage technique compared to NO strength/power feats form Tobirama...
Intelligence/analyzing/tactics of tobirama vs minato=Tobirama talks big and analyzes things good, but so does minato when he is not being an emo over his former student shown against Tobito and he actually thinks moves ahead (4) against Madara/Juubi by arriving then getting rid of the juubidama, placing a sela to protect naruto, as well as throwing one to the sea to get rid of the bijuudama while at the same time placing 3 seals to place the kage for the red sun barrier...
And tactically, Tobirama has not shown anything special while minato has shown his ability to choose effective tactics to overcome the enemy like against tobito as well as the Kyuubi...
So lack of feats for tobi vs Minato's gives it to minato...

FEATS:
:Tobirama has the feats of almost dying against Kin and gin with the 2nd raikage Helping him too. Vs Minato Taking on Killer B and V2 raikage at the same time withut even trying to kill the, and still having a draw...
: Tobirama killed Izuna, but Izuna was using NO MS jutsu while the attack looked like am Ambush during a war, not a 1 on 1 fight... So yea... Vs Minato beating full zetsu body enhanced Obito (who is easily on par with EMS madara with his kamui hax)+Kyuubi, 1 on 2, not in a war...
: Last but not least, tobirama died by the hands of 20 fodders.. Vs Mianto CHoosing to die by plot reasons by killing himself with the shiki fuujin when it was not needed...

CONCLUSION:
Minato is far superior... in Abilities and feats...

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Hashirama vs Minato: lol Hashi stomps. If this is KM Minato, its rape without lube. Why, because the bijuu and their chakra are literally SLAVES to Hashirama's will, and that is KM Minato's power source. Get it! If its non KM, Minato still loses. Hashirama will struggle to touch Minato because of FTG, but he has full knowledge of it, since its his brothers technique.
1). LMFAO!!! Minato at base is already too much with his speed vs even SM hashirama due to the FACT all Minato has to do is TOUCH Hashirama or throw a Kuna tag right by him with the help of kage bushin each able to move so fast you cannot even react while hashirama cannot possibly touch Minato with the ability to teleport to another country to avoid huge scale attacks if need be... Not to mention he can spread his kunai as far apart as he wants shown by his placement of seals to battle the large size of the Juubi as well as throwing one to the freaking sea while was miles upon miles away too...
Thus Minato can either throws Kunai tags to move too miles away or use tag all over the fire country or others to teleport too at the REFLEX of V2 raikage's speed...

Thus, Minato WILL TOUCH hashirama or throw a kuna tag right by him, therefore he will be able to blitz him at will befor ehe can even react, plus the fact hashirama already PROVED he can be killed by a KUNAI despite his body automatically healing damage it receives...

So How does Hashirama keep from being touched or being near a Kunai tag placed or thrown coupled with hashirama not even being able to touch Minato...

2). BM Minato would utterly OWN Hashirama!!! Especially since wood dragon is not even going to touch him to supress the chakra with FTG use coupled with Kyuubi level attacks applied with the FTG level 1,2 and 3 makes BM Minato>>Hashirama easily..

LMAO, you think a Bijuu Mode Minato applying ALL his super powered jutsu with FTG is not match for hashirama lol... Minato can create a Bijuudama, draw it into his time space barrier then throw a Kunai tag directly at hashirama to teleport the Bijuudama to hit him with an INSTANT Bijuudama which is Unavoidable, thus annihilating hashirama lol...
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