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Old 10-01-2013, 12:33 PM   #32
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Re: Why Tobirama and Hashi>>>Minato.

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Originally Posted by minato uchiha View Post
So in this fascinating world of yours, who is more durable, Minato or Hashirama? Minato’s stabbing power with a kunai is so weak, even after stabbing Tobi in the STOMACH, Tobi didn't even YELP. But against Hashi that will be fatal. You also dont get what that scene was about. If Hashi decides to kill himself with a kunai, and decided not to heal from the wound, he dies. However, a simple kunai stab will NOT kill a man whose healing is famed. Get the difference?
1). hashirama<Double hashirama clone body Obito that fought Minato in durability easily... Hashirama has no durability Feats while a zetsu clone has taken two point blank shots from sakura and was barely scathed, still conscious...

2). In this word called naruto manga that shows Minato's kunai striking power is so high when he struck the hachibi tentacle he not only cleaved that thing in two as well as smash it into the ground so hard it created a small crater...

Plus hitting double zetsu body Obito so hard he knocked his fucking hand the rest of the way off... while stabbing him and breaking his sealing contract...


So tell me how Minato's kunai striking power is weak compared to what...??

3). FIRST: hashirama cannot control his automatic healing LMAO, that what automatic means...
SECOND: Hashirama's healing is not FAMED, WTF!!! Madara merely said that hashirama and tsunade (while using genesis rebirth) share the same ability of automatic regeneration, not needing hand seals... Meaning Hashirama's body like tsunade's while in GR automatically heals damage received, but clearly not beyond the level of organ damage which is why hashirama CAN die by a Kunai strike to the mid section...

SO many hashi wankers took Tsunade having the same ability as hashirama as hashirama's healing=tsunade's while using Genesis rebirth and 100 jutsu... Execept that is not what was said... ONLY THAT HASHIRAMA AND TSUNADE WHILE USING gr HAVE THE SAME ABILITY... tHE ABILITY TO AUTOMATICALLY HEAL DAMAGE TO THE BODY, NOT THE LEVEL OF HEALING HASHIRAMA HAS IN COMPARISON TO TSUNADE...

It's so very simple...
: Hashirama's body automatically heals damage to the body...
: But cannot heal organ damage, thus his attempted suicide with a kunai to the mid section despite having automatica regeneration like Genesis rebirth...
CONCLUSION:
Hashirama can heal pretty much any external damage, but internal damage of the organs is not something his ability can heal... Proven by his suicide...


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You think Minato is so great don't you? You think he has the highest reflexes when in actuality, he is fodder without ftg. Madara has incredible reflexes and the almighty sharingan and Hashi kept up with him with no problems. Minato at NO stage in his fight with Obito, get the better of him using his famed reflexes. He didn't outspeed him or bamboozle him with his reflexes. It was FTG that made him the winner.

1). LMFAO, Madara could not even compete against V1 Raikage dude!!! And sasuke was able to out perform him lol...
Proof:
Shows that Madara's physical speed/reflexes are no better then CS2 Juugo since his reaction and speed were almost identical against the exact same level of raikage too, V1...

And yet even SM hashirama is no faster or reactive with his reflexes then madara, who could nto even keep up with V1 raikage LOL...
However, Minato, with his level of super reflexes/physical speed coupled with the FTG was easily able to track, react, dodge and counter plus more reactions of physical movements in the Instant it takes v2 raikage to move a couple feet with a shushin, leaving V2 Raikage helpless against his level of speed reflexes...
Proving that Minato's reflexes/physical speed>>Hashirama's, since he and Madara are even in that category...

2). even without the FTG, Minato's physical speed and reflexes are so high, he could still compete with high level's using ONLY his shushin which is so fats the disappears and reappears...
Shown here:

as well as beat the other hokages, including hashirama to the battlefield by 30 seconds because his shushin is so much faster then his... Again, showing a huge difference in reflexes/physical speed for minato beat a guy with 20x more chakra then him with a SHUSHIN...

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Tobirama is by FAR more accomplished than Minato whose only notable and ORIGINAL ability is the rasengan. His son already showed him how sub standard his rasengans are and Minato doesn't even have SM. Tobirama meanwhile invented 3 of the most feared and dangerous techniques of all time and without Minato COPYING him and using FTG, I dare say even Neji would beat him.
1). LAMO, so yea, tobirama is a great inventor, but a shit kage level shinobi in comparison to minato and hashirama... And without the FTG, Minato could still beat tobirama due to his shushin speed to easily blitz tobirama with his low level water jutsu, nonexistent edo tensai and very low level FTG...

2). feats do not lie, the guy died against 20 fodders while minato was strong he had to kill himself after putting a whoopn' on double hashirama clone body Obito with his kamui hax+the Kyuubi...

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Thankfully we are at the end cos my head is starting to hurt reading some of your arguments. Remind me again which Edo hokage has one arm and has being useless and needed saving in the last 10 or so chapters...
I will remind you that tobirama and hashirama's wood clone that is supposed to be strong by your argument got one shoted by V1 Juubito, the level Juubito that minato and his clone brushed off a speed spin kick attack while busy focusing on his new jutsu too...
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PROOF THE SAME SPEED THAT OWNED EVERYONE ELSE (TOBIRAMA, HASHI CLONE, KYUUBI POWERED NARUTO AND EMS SASUKE) MINATO AND HIS CLONE EASILY BRUSHED OFF WHILE BUSY FOCUSING ON USING THE NEW JUTSU TOO... SHOWING THEY WERE OFF GUARD AND STILL BRUSHED IT OFF AND YET YOU WANT TO ARGUE SPEED/REFLEXES AND EVEN STRENGTH FOR MINATO... KEEP IGNORING THE MANGA...

And then was left off balance by a failed kunai defense coupled with already holding back not trying to hurt his former student which was enough to lose an arm against a shinobi that is>>SM hashirama after all...

And due to V2 Juubito's new power, speed and control, he negated the ET of Minato's so he is missing an arm to a far superior Juubito then what utterly owned tobirama and hashi clone in a single attack...

I mean, at least Minato was left off balance with his arm hanging out after his Kunai defense failed because no one knew that the sage staff was made of 5 element chakra, thus Minato lost that arm while tobirama and hashi clone were still and ready for an attack and still could not avoid it, just got owned easily by a V1 Juubito who is easily<V2 Juubito...

So yea, Minato is missing an arm because without it, when he went Bijuu mode, this fight would already be over with Juubito... i mean, Minato is so strong that he has to be weakened to such a level as one armed and holding back against his former student just so he does not make everyone else look like shit...
Clearly you should be paying attention to that part... not wanking Tobirama's fail and overrating hashirama...
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No matter how POWERFUL/STRONG you are. If you cannot CATCH your Enemy, all you POWER/STRENGTH is no more USEFUL then a squirt gun....
And if You cannot possibly TRACK/REACT to your enemies attacks to Defend yourself, then how can you possibly stop him from DEFEATING you at WILL...


MINATO "KYF" NAMIKAZE.

People live relying on they're Knowledge and Perception, and thus are bound to them.....
Those Boundaries are what they tend to accept as "Reality".....
However..... Knowledge and Perception are both ambiguous....
so "Reality" could be nothing more....
then an illusion....


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