Originally Posted by kael03
Here's another reason for naruto to survive the extraction: we've seen it happen before with Kushina. The Uzumaki have a vast life force and can live long lives and survive things that kill others.
Do not forget that Naruto ONLY had the YANG half of the Kyuubi extracted and VIA a new method using the Gedo Mazo/Juubi's body Plus madara's Senju/Uzumaki's power, Seal Combo... which, we have yet to see used for actually extracting the the bijuu/power and not just taking back a Bijuu/power it had previously sealed within it by akatsuki to completley control, much less the effects of this New Bijuu/power taking Method has on the JINK who's Bijuu/Power was taken...
All those Bijuu/power sealed with the 9 dragon method by akatsuki all died (even Roushi and Gaara who with RED HAIR "the physical trait of those who Belong to the Uzumaki Bloodline" Thus, were likely Uzumaki too, yet still died right after the sealing of the bijuu was done with 9 dragons Method...
Not to mention that Kushina had just Given Birth, therefore, was in a state of severely weakened Health and got no medical treatment after she gave birth, then had the Kyuubi Break out of Her with the seal so Weak and Obito's Assistance...
And Despite all of this, being in such Poor Health before the Kyuubi Broke out. Kushina still survived the extraction of all that chakra of the full power Kyuubi for about another 10 minutes, still having received NO Medical attention with the Village under attack by the Kyuubi and Minato busy....
But, Naruto while having the last Name of Uzumaki does not show any physical traits (having Blonde hair like his father, having a powerful base chakra, however, the Kyuubi's power leaks into naruto's chakra at all times which is why naruto has such a large BASE chakra power/stamina and even having a talent with chakra control to even be able to adjust, Sync and give away like his father minato could), showing physically and technically that he takes mostly after his father's bloodline, thus I doubt he is enough Uzumaki to survive the same Kyuubi extraction that Kushina did, due to her having the power of the Uzumaki and thus Senju bloodline.
Naruto did not lose his Bijuu the same method that killed even two likely Uzumaki JINKS (roushi and Gaara), immediately after the last of the bijuu's chakra was taken.
And is Not in the absolutely piss poor health from having a baby and receiving NO Medical attention what so ever before having the FULL power Kyuubi get extracted from you by having it break out... and Kushina still lived long after losing the Kyuubi in such a condition with no medical attention too.
So Naruto despite having little of the Uzumaki/senju bloodline/power in him, taking more after his father. However, Being in a Very Good State of Health when his Bijuu/power was extracted and will likely receive special medical attention from SKilled Healers of the highest level like Sakura, tsunade, Orochimaru, ect...
All in All Naruto should have a pretty high probability for survival since his Bijuu/power extraction Madara Used with the Gedo Mazo plus the power of the Uzumaki/senju for a combo Seal to rip the Bijuu/power out by force to be sealed immediately is very similar to kushina's Bijuu extraction, but instead of an external force drawing the Bijuu/power out.
The Bijuu Itself Broke out after the seal was very weakened after Obito used the SG to give the Bijuu the will to break out... Making it more an Internal force (the Kyuubi) using it's power/Will to over power a very weak seal to extract itself...
Originally Posted by AOTKorby
It's amazing that Madara is so fucking broken that he doesn't even need to actually break the jinchuuriki seals the way Obito and Nagato both had to, and with no logical reasoning or justification to back it up.
It almost seems like Kishi had all these different villains with different visions for how the plot would have to end with them and, because he couldn't decide between so many masterworks, decided to implement all of them. In sequence.
To be fair, your cherry Picking, Ignoring the FACT that Madara is the one who awakened the RG nagato and Obito used, not to mention Madara should have knowledge and skill with the RG as well as the Uchiha/Senju's bloodline and their abilities considering that Madara had the Uchiha/True SG abilities to learn/master for well over 90 years, the power of the senju from the hashirama DNA/cells to learn/master the Senju abilities for over 65 years and the power of the RG/sage to learn/Master the RG's/Sage's abilities for at least 15 years, judging by Madara's statement "I awoke the RG right as my Life span was about to end" meaning that Madara's natural life span of about 90 years is a reasonable age to which madara's life span was almost over, to which he awoke the RG, broke the seal on the Juubi's body summoning it to him from the moon, using the power still left in the body to cultivate the Senju cells he took from Hashirama to grow Clones of him confirming that madara learned/Mastered the sage's Izanagi to create something using a foundation
(the Juubi's chakra for the Bijuu and hashirama's cells for the Zetsu), By applying IMAGINATION
(creating form and shape), the basis of the Yin power of the Uchiha and by Applying the Basis for the Yang element of the Senju, BREATHING/GIVING LIFE. Thus, Using the Foundation of Hahsirama's Cells Madara Used his YIN Power to give the Senju cells shape and form with his IMAGINATION then GAVE LIFE to that IMAGINED shape and form CREATING a ton of hashirama clones.
Also Madara attached himself to the Juubi's Body to use it's power to extend his life to live up to about 17 years ago in narutoverse timeline which means he lived to around 107-ish giving Madara about 15-17 years to master the RG/Sage's abilities with the help of the Gedo Mazo to power him for more practice and the assistance of the Sage's Tablet's Complete Knowledge using the RG.
SO Madara able to do things beyond what Nagato (who in all likelihood lacked the Knowledge and training to wield the RG's/Sage's and Gedo Mazo's complete abilities) and Obito (Obviously Lacking the Level of Physical energy and life energy that gives hashirama at base such a powerful body/chakra as well as lacking the Spiritual Energy and Imagination that gave Madara the Eternal Mangekyo/true power of the SG... Thus lacking the level of Both the Yin/Uchiha power and Yang/Senju Power to wield the RG he had in his left eye much less the power to awaken the RG from his SG eye which is logically the lowest level ones Eye's+Body's power should be at to wield the RG's 7 unique abilities...
Well, as opposed to ONLY being able to use the RG for it's most basic abilities such as Transmigration and chakra rods/madara's will to use the Rikudou no jutsu. This jutsu transmigrates one's chakra and mind thus doujutsu, KKG, ninjutsu, genjutsu, Kinjutsu, w/e abilities and physical traits your chakra offers and mental control too.
All that, Into a dead or living Body by putting a chakra rod/s into the Body's chakra Point/s to use as the dead or living body/ies as your own Ninja tool.
A Ninja tool that is psychically Linked to the user allowing him/her to see through the eyes of every body/ies that are being used for the jutsu. Not to mention that the abilities of a Living body with it's own Original chakra allows the user to use the Original abilities of that Living body and a Dead body like a reanimated revive shinobi/Edo Golem or dead bodies that have a separate chakra sealed within them (like the Edo JINKS with the Power of Bijuu Sealed within them).
Obviously this was the Limit of what Obito could do with the RG, due to his limited physical ability to use the RG eye he had...
I Think Kishi had been holding back detailed explanations of the SG/MS/EMS/RG's abilities so that he could allow Madara to show a true Sage level of Proficiency with the Sage's powers/abilities, not just someone with the sage's abilities which we have been seeing since the beginning of part 2 when Pain was first shown fighting.