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Originally Posted by flareofdragon
<_< I am disproving you. But you seem to look through it in such a crude and wrong way that I really do not know how to argue with you. You are opposite of what you claim to be, you are not looking through an open mind. You have not even visited the sites that I showed here. And also, you need 100% proof to be proven wrong, and in life, thats almost never the case.
And you do not know, but you think you do. What I have said about evolution is correct. What you are putting down is wrong.
I showed you links, I showed you evidence, I showed you everything.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-...o-biology.html
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Thank you for the links, I believe I over looked them previously. And everything I read of them, disproves me. Except one piece, the part about the moth. Their information provided was so joggy. At first they're just talking about dark moths and light moths then they're talking about how the dark moths went from 2% to 95% in Manchester. It's like they're adding information to the equasion just so it can make sense for it to work. Logically that's the only part I disagree with.
[quote]And btw, although we know how this could bring about the essence of life, it has not been done yet.[quote] What do you mean by this?
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You are wrong. Its that simple. Evolution occurs through mutations and environmental influences. Its a drive to control the environment and to better suit its need. This is only possible through mutations and adaptation. Adaptation is only short term, but whichever traits allows the species to adapt properly to the environment becomes passed down as they can breed longer.
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You're probably correct here. But I still am not persuaded that Adapation is apart of Evolution...>.>
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And btw, black people are still black in Wisconsin and other cold areas. Its not the sun, its because of genetic mutation that were passed down through a lineage. So no, the sun is not the key factor, though it is the reason black skin was favored (white skins burn easier).
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I'm not saying that you'll be black in a desert and white in the arctics. I'm saying that the way the black skin color started was through the intense sun exposure in the middle-east/africa areas.
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And no, the monkey does not breed with the cavemen (That idea can be proven wrong easily, how did those cavemen get there?), the ancestors which had a higher brain capacity lived longer and bred more. Thus, this trait were passed down to their children (they made more children) and they lost uneeded stuff (most of the body hair). They also started working in upright position (better hand control) and lost their tail (too big to swing in trees). This continued until the recent humans were born.
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I wasn't saying the monkeys bred with the cavemen...v.v
How does a monkey lose it's tail? Continue to cut it off through the generations until it becomes apart of the genes for it to not grow? Last time I checked they didn't have equipment in that day to genetically change someone/things genes. Sides, how do we know Cavemen existed in the first place? (never knew where scientists got the idea of Cavemen...)
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There are bones to prove these facts true.
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Do you have any examples? Because deciding between you and DarkAztec, I think I'm going to get more information from you.
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We are not an old species, its only been a few thousand years. Plus we do change, but we do not have to rapidly change because THERE IS NOTHING DRIVING US TO! Evolution is only when we cannot adapt to the environment, right now humans can control it to their favor. So there is no reason to mutate.
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Wow, you just gave me a wonderful idea that basically proves my beliefs. If the human race is only several thousand years old, and by the Bible's timeline the earth is only 8 thousand, or so, years old then you know humans might just have been here at the beginning of the world. Not scientifically proveable but through common sense, thank you for the title of the thread, I think it's right.
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But even that is a bit wrong, we have mutated. The europeans had passed down traits to survive smallpox, but Indians, lacking these traits, were wiped out by this disease. So yes, we have evolved, but these evolutions are not enough to make us different species.
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And the Indians were affected because of no prior access to smallpox, I know how that went... (poor Native Americans)
And just as a stated fact, a lot of the things we're talking about are theories. Like Primordial Soup. The first thing stated in my History for school this year was that anything dating before written record is Prehistory. Meaning anything past history is all theories and thoughts and dreams until someone finds something that proves one more theory correct.