I'm sorry mods, I know that this is a double post. However, I was sent a repsonse via PM, which makes no sense. There was nothing in there that I find to be flaming, so I figure that, less I have to repeat myself again in the future and not have record of it, I might as well respond here. Again mods, if me double posting is a big problem, then I apologize and will make up for it as best I can. I just request that you not delete my post before I get some form of record of it. Thanks!
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Want to be a teacher, instead of student (for once), and teach me what a Pascal's Wager is? Instead of just saying I don't know what it is.
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You really can't take the 5 seconds of effort to Google it or use Wikipedia? It really doesn't take much time and will be a better explaination compared to if I do it.
Here yah go then! Sheesh.
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It's never specified that God only made Adam and Eve. It just says he made them first.
Genisis 4:13-17
13"Cain said to the Lord, "My punishment is too great to bear!
14Behold You have driven me this day from the face of the ground; and from Your face I will be hidden, and I will be a vagrant and a wanderer of the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me."
15So the Lord said to him, "Therefore whoever kills Cain, vengeance will be taken on him sevenfold." And the Lord appointed a sign for Cain, so that no one finding him would slay him.
16Then Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and settled in the land of Nod, east of Eden.
17Cain had relations with his wife and she conceived, and gave birth to Enoch; and he built a city, and called the name of the city Enoch, after the name of his son."Genisis 4:19
"19Lamech took to himself two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other, Zillah."
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Bad idea to get medieval with me and try to quote the Bible to prove me wrong... Especially since, I believe, this entire topic is ID versus evolution. But here yah go: Please reread Genesis a bit more. You will find that God creates man and woman in the forms of Adam and Eve. There are no other references to it. You can ask any religion scholar (or just take the few seconds required to search it up on Google) about it. I would link you to the Wikipedia article on it, but it has some nudity on it from pictures painted of Lillith and Eve (the only other option as to where people could have come from in the Bible, but I don't think Christian people want to think we came from devils). So search it yourself.
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And we have fossil evidence of the Neanderthals?
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Yeah. We do. Again, even the quickest of Google searches would tell you that. I've even held a neanderthal's skull in my hands. Where do you think the word neanderthal CAME from? It is based on pre-man, considered to be slightly more brutish and dumber.
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We're not animals. We have a conscience. We can, and have, survived. We've built Skyscrapers, airplanes, towers of many types, cars. Has any animal ever accomplished something like that?
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Reading that bit took me an extra minute to respond, for I was laughing so hard. Please. We aren't animals? Yeah. We are. We're classified as Homo Sapiens. We're mammals. But let me blow your mind for a minute: Chimps and dolphins and numerous other forms of animals have "a conscience." There exist strict social rules in many primate groups. They have their own right and wrong, their own morality. They feel embarassed, they feel bad about acts, etc.
So we're advanced enough to build tools. And? We're more evolved than they are. Sheesh, I would have thought that the Planet of the Apes movies would at least teach you that. It could have been any species that gained enough intelligence over time (combined with a number of other factors that leads to an overall increase of intelligence and learning past deeds to make new acts). We're only special because it happened to us. We're animals none-the-less.
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A very impolite opinion at that, I might say.
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You do not even know that there exists neanderthal fossils. You. Do. Not. Know. What. You. Are. Talking. About. It is a fact. I'm sorry, you are in no position to debate me on evolution when you do not know even the most basic of factoids about it. It isn't opinion. I wouldn't dare open my mouth about physics because I know very little about it... I would be even LESS inclined to tell off someone who has studied it for years. Why? Because I don't know shit about physics! They do!
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Since when have you been inside my brain to know that I don't know anything about adaption? Adaption is the will of an organism to survive. Through migration or metomorphism, if necessary. And yes, now I'm proving myself wrong, but we don't have any modern evidence of metomorphism, other then a black moth living out the white moth because humans poluted.
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What makes me think you know nothing about adaptation. Hmm... Your posts
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here, and
here prove to me, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you do not know anything about adaptation. Oh, I also forgot to mention that this PM which I am responding to shows me you don't know. Adaptation is not the "will of an organism to survive." I'll say it again: Do a quick Wikipedia search. "A biological adaptation is an anatomical structure, physiological process or behavioral trait of an organism that has evolved over a period of time by the process of natural selection such that it increases the expected long-term reproductive success of the organism."
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That's true. But if you're going to teach Evolution, which isn't a religion technically, then you should also teach about Creation. Not specifically Christianism. But Creation. If there's two sides to every quarter, you should be allowed to see both in an educated society. (if that's what you want to call a school...-_-)
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What? No. See, creationism isn't science. Science has strict rules and regulations that say how something should be studied and etc. Creationism is the EXACT OPPOSITE OF SCIENCE. Why? Because it relies on complete faith without proof. Science doesn't do that. A scientific theory is still backed by evidence and can at least be proved wrong. Tell me how we can prove God to be right or wrong! Oh wait. We CANNOT.
It is not a more educated society if we teach creationism. Why? Because first off, you don't want all creation stories taught! No, no, no! What about the 100+ other religions and their unique theories! "We were created from Adam and Eve!" "We are all just beings in a dream world!" "We were all created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster!" "We were created by Zeus' children!" "We were formed when a giant cow licked apart an ice glacier that was dropped by an ice giant!" "We were formed in the fires of Mount Doom!" "We don't really exist, but are just the dreams of a giant creature, who in turn is a dream of an even bigger creature!" "The earth rests on the back of a giant turtle, who stands on a turtle, and it is turtle's all the way down!" "We formed as offspring of the prime evil in the universe!" Etc. and etc. and freakin' etc.
But wait! Seeing as how those are personal life philosophies and religions, shouldn't they be taught in a religion or philosophy class? Oh right. They should. Otherwise, I could make up my very own religion and creation story and YOU MUST TEACH IT IN CLASSES. That's the idea behind the Flying Spaghetti Monsterism movement and the Flying Invisible Pink Unicorn theory.
And even if we DID teach all religions and all theories of how the world came to exist in a SCIENCE class, we STILL should NOT teach it there because those ARE NOT PIECES OF SCIENCE.
Capishe?