jekyl_hyde's Thread of Bullshit

xxMESTxx · 05-10-2012, 12:33 AM

My point.

Don't like gay marriage? Don't have one
Don't like drugs? Don't do them
Don't like sex? Don't have it
Don't like your rights being taken away? QUIT TAKING EVERYBODY ELSES.

Everybody is free to believe what they want, but here it's pretty much you're a christian or you're looked down upon. It bugs me how much religion of all things effected peoples decision on this amendmant. Church and State ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SEPERATE.

Unfortunately Neo, we're surrounded by morons.

Edit: Apacolyps too, I feel your pain haha.

apacolypz · 05-10-2012, 12:59 AM

I wish the issue was proposed back in 2008 and the wording messed people up. I am sure if people actually took a few minutes to research the results may have turned out differently. I don't believe a state that Obama took would turn out over 60% for the amendment. It continues to shock me. I will not move or hate my state...just rubs me the wrong way when i look at people. I am not out to take away liberal freedom. What you do is what you do and I respect that. We want to separate church and state and we continue to live on as a religious society based off hypocritical bullsnit. tisk it is really a shame....equality is the justice America is defined by...We boast on being the For all come all country. As soon as you show a slight bit of difference you are thrown out for all to see.

Vengeance · 05-10-2012, 01:19 PM

Crazy bible talk which promotes incest & pimping out your children to strange men shouldn't have the right to dictate what is & isn't immoral.

**SirBenoit** · 05-10-2012, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Vengeance

Crazy bible talk which promotes incest & pimping out your children to strange men shouldn't have the right to dictate what is & isn't immoral.

Any crazy talk can promote and brainwash anyone.... Look at hitler, osama bin laden, you can take religion and spin it anyway you want. Doesnt mean that all muslims are terrorist, so dont lump all christians together.. This topic came up when 60% of nc voted against gay marriage. Does that mean that 60% of nc is white republican christians? no

xxMESTxx · 05-10-2012, 02:15 PM

^ Yet, that's the world we live in. People have seriously disgusted me the past few weeks. Personally, I've lost what little hope I had in humanity. It's one thing to believe in the bible and use it as somewhat of a moral road map. When you try to start dictating things based on any religion, you're FUCKING CRAZY! As I've said before I don't believe in any of it, and have yet to see a reason to. So who the fuck are you to dictate my life based on something I consider Fiction?

Sadly we'll see more and more of this. We'll continue to hand our rights away, a little at a time.

/rant

OT: I wouldn't hold my breath for Izanami. If Itachi truly did cast it on Sasuke, I'm guessing we won't know exactly what he did, until it becomes relevant.

Vengeance · 05-10-2012, 02:49 PM

You can take a look at modern religious factions to get a better idea on just how absurd the whole idea actually is. Take Jediism, Scientology, Mormonism, & Rastafarian as examples. One is based on a movie franchise, another a science fiction novel, the rantings of a man who by his own admission considered himself insane & suffered from hallucinations, & a movement that was founded after Haile Selassie went to Jamaica & it rained after a long drought. Old school religions where basically founded under the same concepts whether it be from children stories passed down through generations(Jediism/Scientology), created to control people(Scientology/Mormonism), or used to explain an event that previously couldn't be explained do to a lack of information/technology(Almost every religion in existence).

Human Rasengan · 05-10-2012, 03:22 PM

Its a shame that Christians try to fight the homosexual cause and say they are followers of Christ.. Christ only spoken words are listed in the new testament and he not even once spoke for or agianst homosexuality.. with him being the son og God and all it would make sence for him to weigh in on the matter seeing that it would be such a wedge issue but nope not one word..

jekyl_hyde · 05-10-2012, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Human Rasengan

Its a shame that Christians try to fight the homosexual cause and say they are followers of Christ.. Christ only spoken words are listed in the new testament and he not even once spoke for or agianst homosexuality.. with him being the son og God and all it would make sence for him to weigh in on the matter seeing that it would be such a wedge issue but nope not one word..

let me clarify this for you a little hr.

many fundamentalist Christians believe that Christ's words do cover the scope of homosexuality (at least homosexual marriages). the Bible (and Jesus) has referred to the church as his bride, with Jesus being the groom. these two terms alone signify the sex/gender relationship in a marriage. it is also stated that Jesus was meant to fulfill the law (the OT for those of you who are ignorant to the biblical teachings). the only sexual act mentioned in the ten commandments is coveting (loosely) and adultery. but there are references given to two communites/city-states (Sodom and Gomorrah) where homosexuality was practiced rampantly. the Bible states that God smote these two locations. even history doesn't dispute that the places were destroyed (by natural causes according to historians).

personally, I think gay marriage is wrong. I also think that our country should leave marriage where it was intended to be, in the context of religion. look throughout history. marriage is a concept of most religions, not of government, excluding arranged marriages between royalty and noble families. I have a wife. we have a marriage license, which I have no idea where it is. we got married due to our religious beliefs, not so we could file our taxes a certain way (also, for those who think there is a difference under filing married jointly rather that individuals under a household with a head of household, there is no difference now).

stubborn_d0nkey · 05-13-2012, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jekyl_hyde

personally, I think gay marriage is wrong. I also think that our country should leave marriage where it was intended to be, in the context of religion. look throughout history. marriage is a concept of most religions, not of government, excluding arranged marriages between royalty and noble families. I have a wife. we have a marriage license, which I have no idea where it is. we got married due to our religious beliefs, not so we could file our taxes a certain way (also, for those who think there is a difference under filing married jointly rather that individuals under a household with a head of household, there is no difference now).

Are you saying that you want no government involvement, meaning there should be no such thing as being, lets say, "legally" married (that wouldn't mean being married is illegal, I'm talking about the bureaucratic aspect, marriage license and stuff like that), or meaning that there should legally be marriage but the government shouldn't decide who could get married but rather religion should?

If the answer is the latter, then if there were two guys in a religion that allowed same-sex marriage you would be okay with them getting married? Would you be okay with 2 men, 3 women and an elephant getting married if it is by their religion?

Anyways, I thought people tend to get married primarily (in the western world), of course because of love, not so that they could file taxes a certain way nor because of their religious beliefs. I find it intriguing that you did not mention love at all, could you please elaborate on why you didnt? (if it has something to do with your religion please state your religion and elaborate, thanks!)

Vengeance · 05-10-2012, 03:34 PM

The argument of homosexuality is generally supposed to be more about sex for the sake of Lust rather than procreation. Since a gay or lesbian couple can't conceive without outside help the every act of what they're doing is considered lust & therefore immoral. It's the same reason why things like incest, forced marriage, a gang bang done by a deceased or infertile husbands brothers, prostitution, rape, as well as pedophilia can be justified if given the right circumstances.

Human Rasengan · 05-10-2012, 03:45 PM

THe big problemb comes with the idea that it's a lifestyle choice.. a person can't controll what they are attracted to no more than they can decide allergies or what types of food they like . if boobs make you moist then ther's nothign that a penis is gonna do for you.

The allusion that it's a choice is the problemb.. once it's learned it's a natural way of a person then things may change but until thats understood then nothign is gonna happen.

PS did Izanami activate or no??

Vengeance · 05-10-2012, 04:01 PM

The choice if you will lies in the idea that it's ok to have such urges so long as you don't choose to act on them. Choosing to act on those urges is what is considered immoral. What is the big cosmic joke in all of this is the idea of a creator giving us these urges & the freewill to act on them while also creating a set of rules where it'll punish you for doing what it created you to do. The whole idea of a creator filled with so much vanity & rage could sit there expecting your love & devotion while threatening to condemn you to an eternity of suffering if you chose not to is rather hilarious. The creator is simply a twisted puppet master who throws a shit fit when it doesn't get it's way.

jekyl_hyde · 05-10-2012, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vengeance

The choice if you will lies in the idea that it's ok to have such urges so long as you don't choose to act on them. Choosing to act on those urges is what is considered immoral. What is the big cosmic joke in all of this is the idea of a creator giving us these urges & the freewill to act on them while also creating a set of rules where it'll punish you for doing what it created you to do. The whole idea of a creator filled with so much vanity & rage could sit there expecting your love & devotion while threatening to condemn you to an eternity of suffering if you chose not to is rather hilarious. The creator is simply a twisted puppet master who throws a shit fit when it doesn't get it's way.

honestly, you won't understand how asinine your comment is until you have children. I have a daughter who is less than 2 yrs. of age.

Vengeance · 05-10-2012, 04:14 PM

Marriage is nothing more than a business arrangement & has been such since it's creation & has little to do with actual love. In regards to gay marriage it's a human rights issue same as interracial marriage which is still fought against in the United States.

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Originally Posted by jekyl_hyde

honestly, you won't understand how asinine your comment is until you have children. I have a daughter who is less than 2 yrs. of age.

& you would condemn your daughter to an eternity of torture if she didn't obey your every command? Explain to me how I made an asinine comment.

jekyl_hyde · 05-10-2012, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Vengeance

Marriage is nothing more than a business arrangement & has been such since it's creation & has little to do with actual love. In regards to gay marriage it's a human rights issue same as interracial marriage which is still fought against in the United States.

in which state is interracial marriage against the law (or not recognized)?

just curious...

05-10-2012, 12:33 AM	#1
xxMESTxx EffYouSeeKay Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: The Mountains Age: 21 Posts: 908 Thanks: 1,343 Thanked 606 Times in 300 Posts	jekyl_hyde's Thread of Bullshit My point. Don't like gay marriage? Don't have one Don't like drugs? Don't do them Don't like sex? Don't have it Don't like your rights being taken away? QUIT TAKING EVERYBODY ELSES. Everybody is free to believe what they want, but here it's pretty much you're a christian or you're looked down upon. It bugs me how much religion of all things effected peoples decision on this amendmant. Church and State ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SEPERATE. Unfortunately Neo, we're surrounded by morons. Edit: Apacolyps too, I feel your pain haha. __________________ "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." -M. K. Gandhi Last edited by xxMESTxx; 05-10-2012 at 02:51 AM.

05-10-2012, 12:59 AM	#2
apacolypz Jounin Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: NC Raleigh Posts: 969 Thanks: 494 Thanked 668 Times in 292 Posts	Re: Naruto Chapter 585 I wish the issue was proposed back in 2008 and the wording messed people up. I am sure if people actually took a few minutes to research the results may have turned out differently. I don't believe a state that Obama took would turn out over 60% for the amendment. It continues to shock me. I will not move or hate my state...just rubs me the wrong way when i look at people. I am not out to take away liberal freedom. What you do is what you do and I respect that. We want to separate church and state and we continue to live on as a religious society based off hypocritical bullsnit. tisk it is really a shame....equality is the justice America is defined by...We boast on being the For all come all country. As soon as you show a slight bit of difference you are thrown out for all to see.

05-10-2012, 02:15 PM	#5
xxMESTxx EffYouSeeKay Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: The Mountains Age: 21 Posts: 908 Thanks: 1,343 Thanked 606 Times in 300 Posts	Re: Naruto Chapter 585 ^ Yet, that's the world we live in. People have seriously disgusted me the past few weeks. Personally, I've lost what little hope I had in humanity. It's one thing to believe in the bible and use it as somewhat of a moral road map. When you try to start dictating things based on any religion, you're FUCKING CRAZY! As I've said before I don't believe in any of it, and have yet to see a reason to. So who the fuck are you to dictate my life based on something I consider Fiction? Sadly we'll see more and more of this. We'll continue to hand our rights away, a little at a time. /rant OT: I wouldn't hold my breath for Izanami. If Itachi truly did cast it on Sasuke, I'm guessing we won't know exactly what he did, until it becomes relevant. __________________ "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." -M. K. Gandhi

05-10-2012, 03:22 PM	#7
Human Rasengan S-Ranked Shinobi Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: inside your mom Posts: 3,241 Thanks: 2,791 Thanked 1,126 Times in 772 Posts	Re: Naruto Chapter 585 Its a shame that Christians try to fight the homosexual cause and say they are followers of Christ.. Christ only spoken words are listed in the new testament and he not even once spoke for or agianst homosexuality.. with him being the son og God and all it would make sence for him to weigh in on the matter seeing that it would be such a wedge issue but nope not one word.. __________________ for those of you who don't understand.. I'm coming from an illogical perspective so your logic won't fit my argument .. it'll only give you a headache.. remember ..belief doesn't require a co-signer There Is A Fine Line Between Genius And Insanity , I Have Erased This Line ! If I were you I'd hate me too.. I am the HUMAN RASENGAN!!! The power of despair is great in you. [CENTER] http://www.citymanga.com/naruto/chapter-462/14/ http://www.fandom.com/forums/showpos...54&postcount=5 http://www.fandom.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53431 http://www.fandom.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55960 Madara's mask theme song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3882sGkrNA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlzx4...&feature=share http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3qkz4WfOto LOL I'M DYING BACK HERE

05-10-2012, 03:45 PM	#11
Human Rasengan S-Ranked Shinobi Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: inside your mom Posts: 3,241 Thanks: 2,791 Thanked 1,126 Times in 772 Posts	Re: Naruto Chapter 585 THe big problemb comes with the idea that it's a lifestyle choice.. a person can't controll what they are attracted to no more than they can decide allergies or what types of food they like . if boobs make you moist then ther's nothign that a penis is gonna do for you. The allusion that it's a choice is the problemb.. once it's learned it's a natural way of a person then things may change but until thats understood then nothign is gonna happen. PS did Izanami activate or no?? __________________ for those of you who don't understand.. I'm coming from an illogical perspective so your logic won't fit my argument .. it'll only give you a headache.. remember ..belief doesn't require a co-signer There Is A Fine Line Between Genius And Insanity , I Have Erased This Line ! If I were you I'd hate me too.. I am the HUMAN RASENGAN!!! The power of despair is great in you. [CENTER] http://www.citymanga.com/naruto/chapter-462/14/ http://www.fandom.com/forums/showpos...54&postcount=5 http://www.fandom.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53431 http://www.fandom.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55960 Madara's mask theme song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3882sGkrNA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlzx4...&feature=share http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3qkz4WfOto LOL I'M DYING BACK HERE Last edited by Human Rasengan; 05-10-2012 at 03:59 PM.

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