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Old 08-31-2012, 02:55 PM   #1
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Question The Age problem ?

Here are some age facts from databook :-

kakashi graduated from academy at age 5(child prodigy)

obito and rin graduated at age 9

now considering genin team to be formed after graduation

so team minato had kakashi at age 5, rin and obito of age 9


this implies kakashi is at least 4 years younger than obito and rin

also guy graduate at age 7 from academy



next we come at chunnin graduation data





kakashi became chunin at age 6(after defeating 8 year old guy)
rin and obito both 10 yr old

obito and rin become chunnin at age 11(a year after kakashi)

guy also becomes chunin at age 11(but 3 years after kakashi)
so when guy becomes chunin kakashi obito amd rin are of age 9,12,12 respectively.





now comes greatest blunder
databook says obito died at age 13(2 years after his chunin exam)
and in kakashi gaiden kakashi is said to be of age 13(becoming jounin)
which leads to say obito must be at least 17....


the all loopholes arise from here
how come this happpen ?


before chapter 599 I assumed kakashi graduated and was assigned initially with some temprorary team untill being asigned with obito and rin who were supposed to be his age.


"Also Rin was attracted to a guy 4 years younger than her "

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Old 08-31-2012, 05:44 PM   #2
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Simply.

The amazing power of Re-can.

also, I will add, in 1 year a lot can change. Naruto for instance.
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Old 08-31-2012, 08:07 PM   #3
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Here are some age facts from databook :-

kakashi graduated from academy at age 5(child prodigy)

obito and rin graduated at age 9

now considering genin team to be formed after graduation

so team minato had kakashi at age 5, rin and obito of age 9


this implies kakashi is at least 4 years younger than obito and rin

also guy graduate at age 7 from academy



next we come at chunnin graduation data





kakashi became chunin at age 6(after defeating 8 year old guy)
rin and obito both 10 yr old

obito and rin become chunnin at age 11(a year after kakashi)

guy also becomes chunin at age 11(but 3 years after kakashi)
so when guy becomes chunin kakashi obito amd rin are of age 9,12,12 respectively.





now comes greatest blunder
databook says obito died at age 13(2 years after his chunin exam)
and in kakashi gaiden kakashi is said to be of age 13(becoming jounin)
which leads to say obito must be at least 17....


the all loopholes arise from here
how come this happpen ?


before chapter 599 I assumed kakashi graduated and was assigned initially with some temprorary team untill being asigned with obito and rin who were supposed to be his age.


"Also Rin was attracted to a guy 4 years younger than her "

I see what your saying here. The ONLY thing saving Kishi is no years have been established. For example we dont know what year everyone was born in.

So they could all be the same age. There were no years marked in that flashback. Kakashi became a Chuunin a year after graduation, yes. But it is your Sensei that puts the whole team into it. Obito and Rin could have participated at the same one Kakashi was in, then years later finally succede.

There also were a couple panels that made it "appear" Obito was taller than Kakashi.

By the way Minato was not that tall. He and Kakashi were nearly the same height (full grown Kakashi). J man almost dwarfed the 3rd and 4th Hokages.
Just saying i they were to his shoulder in the war they could be right at his height a year later. Average growth 3 inches a year plus growth spurt coupd equal 6 inches which could put him right at Minato's height.
Naruto went from elbow to ear on kakashi after the time skip (granted it was two years). Now he is his height.

Now i said all that just as example of what KISHI could USE to back up this clusterfuck of plotholes.

Personally i think it isnt Obito just his body or maybe our forum brother is on to something with the rapid growth alternate dimension. He does have 5 minute limit. Maybe thats as long as he can stay until it starts affecting him.

Im just waiting for 600 to TRY to explain this to us all. Unless he cuts to the Kages or Sasuke. If he does that one of those damn Kage better die and the reveal for Sasuke and his truth search better be freaking awesome!
Cause it would be wrong for him(Kishi) to run from this next week!

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Old 08-31-2012, 08:35 PM   #4
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I see what your saying here. The ONLY thing saving Kishi is no years have been established. For example we dont know what year everyone was born in.

Er...yes we do. We know by their current ages.

Obito died at 13.
Kakashi is 30.
Asuma died at 31.
Gai is 30.
Kurenai is 31.
Hayate died at 23.
Ibiki is 31.
Anko is 24.
Genma is somewhere around 29 and 30.
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Old 08-31-2012, 08:43 PM   #5
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Er...yes we do. We know by their current ages.

Obito died at 13.
Kakashi is 30.
Asuma died at 31.
Gai is 30.
Kurenai is 31.
Hayate died at 23.
Ibiki is 31.
Anko is 24.
Genma is somewhere around 29 and 30.
Anko was in the Chuunin exams. It seems bu this Kakashi is 6 years older than she is, so she was how old in the flashback?
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Anko was in the Chuunin exams. It seems bu this Kakashi is 6 years older than she is, so she was how old in the flashback?
Se took the chuunin exam three years earlier before she took the genin exam.
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Old 09-01-2012, 01:17 AM   #7
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Se took the chuunin exam three years earlier before she took the genin exam.
That makes NO sense. What in the name of J R Tolkien is Kishimoto doing!? For Stan Lees sake get yoir origin stories an back stories straight Kishimoto!
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Re: The Age problem ?

Do not put Tolkien and Kishi in one sentence
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Re: The Age problem ?

Anko is 24...
Kakashi is 30...

well acording to last chapter kakashi and Anko were in same chunin exam where kakashi is supposed to be of age 6.....

it implies anko was not even born or was infant let alone be in chunin exam....

great comedy of errors by kishi
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anko is 24...
Kakashi is 30...

Well acording to last chapter kakashi and anko were in same chunin exam where kakashi is supposed to be of age 6.....

It implies anko was not even born or was infant let alone be in chunin exam....

Great comedy of errors by kishi :d

http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?p=44361801

Just read the god damn thing.
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The comparison is so hilariously flawed.

Homer's epics were spoken, not written, and were turned into text much later (some even argue the transcripts were produced centuries later). So Homer pretty much had only his memory to rely on (which can be tricky as everybody knows) and some of the continuity fuck-ups might even be due to those who produced the transcripts, not Homer himself.

Kishimoto writes every week with a team that assists him, he must have notes, either on a notebook or in the pc, he must have access to the web where are literally dozens of freeware that helps keep track of his writing. And he STILL fucks up.

I'm sorry, just because Homer's writing has continuity hiccups is no excuse whatsoever for anybody else.
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So the original poster is basically saying you should not poke at every inconsistency in the story and just roll with whatever Kishi puts out because even other great story tellers like Homer made mistakes. A bit of my soul just died a little. That forum really scares the shit out of me with the types of conversations that carries on over there.

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to prove Kishi is right even when he's wrong they have the audacity to compare Kishimoto with Homer and comparing Iliad with Naruto.
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Re: The Age problem ?

What confuses me now that I think about is Anko being Oro's student with her age. If I didn't look at the databook I would have assumed she was closer to Minato's age, or at least inbetween Minato and Kakashi.

Oro would have had to leave the village before Minato became Hokage, and he was Anko's teacher, so it is possible that the databook is more flawed than the picture?
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4. Kage Summit was a tad disappointing simply because we didn't see any of the charcters that SHOULD have been introduced during the chuunin exams.

5. The War has been epicly disappointing because Kishi is killing off Edo's in a matter of one chapter when each edo (Kages, Swordsman, Nagato and Itachi) when they should get around 4 or 5 chapters of dedication.

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