Final Villain?

Shrike · 11-12-2007, 04:38 AM

We need more threads here at NL.
Since I am not really active these days either, I though of making a few interesting threads while I am here.

So here is it - vote who do you think will be the final villain in Naruto and give your reasons.
Do not be lazy to type it all down and just vote. Give us your reason so other could discuss.

My vote:

Quote:

Uchiha Madara.

My reasons:

- The story is largely about Konoha. Madara helped create it. He should be dead but he's still alive and he's an important part of Konoha's past.

- Madara most likely summoned Kyuubi to attack Konoha and that is the backdrop of this whole story.

- Madara has also possibly had a hand in the massacre of the Uchiha, which means he's also contributed to what Sasuke has gone through. He's connected to the two big plot events of this story.

- He's clashed with Shodai over something. Him and his rival were used as a parallel for our two main protagonists.

- In this arc, which is the transitional period and revealing the important things to us, Madara's part has been left until the end. He's about to encounter Naruto and Sasuke, both of our main protagonists.

- Madara gave Pain orders. This is NJT's translation; "You do it. As you are their leader, I won't accept failure." I don't think he even considers himself part of that organisation but he's definitely giving orders to the one who leads it. This is a difference in rank being shown. The context in Japanese; Madara was telling Pain he was the "their" leader (the other members of Akatsuki) and that he wouldn't accept failure from him. Even before this, he told Pain to tell his members to finish their tasks.

- He's more evil than Kyuubi, said by the demon himself. No one is more evil than Kyuubi so when someone that comes along is, he's something major.

- He's been foreshadowed since the early stages of the story.

- His revelation overshadowed Pain's. After all of us AL fans were waiting to see who led Akatsuki, we're shown someone else in the shadows who's telling him things. That person also gets the classic lightning action.

- He's an Uchiha; instant importance since the Sharingan is an important aspect of the plot and has been since the beginning stages of the story.

- Jiraiya has met Pain; he plans on taking him out. Yet, at the thought of Madara being alive, he was worried. There is something Madara did in the past which makes Jiraiya wary of him; we're going to find out soon. Shodai wanted peace above everything else and i'm willing to bet Madara's ambition would lead to chaos. He wants the true power of the sharingan for a reason.

- He can summon Kyuubi. This is a testament to his strength; the greatest hype there is since we haven't seen anything stronger than Kyuubi.

- His battle with Shodai created the VotE, there hasn't been one shinobi so far who has shown power capable of such a thing. That shit is mini-DBZ level (though i think Kyuubi played a part there too ).

- He hasn't even done anything in the present so far, but his importance is rooted into the story. That is what you call final villain material; he has major importance as soon as he is revealed.

- No other villain is as deeply connected to this plot like Madara. Seriously, no contest. His actions were the domino affect which caused this story to turn out the way it is. Just think, it's already been implied by Jiraiya that he's behind the Kyuubi attack and Itachi mentioned a 3rd MS user (Uchiha massacre connection?). If that is indeed the case, take away those two events from ever happening and see how this story has to, either completely reshape itself, or someone else has to fill in Madara's role for it to stay the same.

Those are simply put, my reasons for believing he's going to be the final villain and the most powerful. He's the perfect candidate to be defeated by Team 7 and have everyone work together to overcome. He's been screwing around people for decades, is connected to Naruto, Sasuke, Shodai, Minato, the whole of Konoha because he helped create the village. Not only that, he's about to possibly encounter both of our main protagonists at the same time and that's going to be an epic event, especially when they realise who exactly is alive and news goes back to Konoha.

Pain, in my opinion, stopped being in contention for final villain as soon as it was revealed Madara was alive. He's going to be for Naruto what Itachi is for Sasuke, their respective one on one battles before they have to team up and take out the final threat.

A person I know wrote this and I would agree.
But, I wouldn't still agree with him that Madara is giving orders to Pain. I was kinda convinced AL will be the final villain, but now I don't think so anymore.

MikeyM1979 · 11-12-2007, 04:50 AM

I think Kabuchimaru would be the final villain. Orochimaru started the series off as the first major (no offense to Zabuza and Haku fans) villain, and I think the series will end with his return through Kabuto.

SharinganWarrior · 11-12-2007, 07:30 AM

I think its goin' to be Madara... I pretty much agree with that Shrike's mate's quote...

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Originally Posted by MikeyM1979

I think Kabuchimaru would be the final villain. Orochimaru started the series off as the first major (no offense to Zabuza and Haku fans) villain, and I think the series will end with his return through Kabuto.

Im my mind as much as I like Orochimaru, Kabuto and Kabuchimaru, I think hes goin' to be a quick kill for either Sasuke or Itachi... Kabuchimaru might just show up at the Uchiha Hideout.. Yeah, thats what i think.. heh..

shiki-fuujin · 11-12-2007, 10:02 AM

kabuchimaru because he badass

satansilent · 11-12-2007, 10:13 AM

I believe Madara is the final fight and exactly accept "Quote"

Nexus · 11-12-2007, 11:21 AM

I'm going with Madara Uchiha.

brandoi · 11-12-2007, 11:35 AM

My vote goes to Zetsu. Why you may ask? Zetsu is a weird-ass character. Popping up around fights and just watching it. At the end of Naruto and Sasuke's fight, he comes out from the ground, wtf's up with that? As of this chapter, Zetsu has played absolutely NO PART in anything. I believe that once everything is gone, Zetsu appears and kills a bunch of people, and then Naruto comes.

YellowFlash88 · 11-12-2007, 11:57 AM

Pein is going to be the final villian. He never lost a battle and has the strongest eye the renigan

Silverblade · 11-12-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by brandoi

My vote goes to Zetsu. Why you may ask? Zetsu is a weird-ass character. Popping up around fights and just watching it. At the end of Naruto and Sasuke's fight, he comes out from the ground, wtf's up with that? As of this chapter, Zetsu has played absolutely NO PART in anything. I believe that once everything is gone, Zetsu appears and kills a bunch of people, and then Naruto comes.

Nah.. Hebi knows he's lurking aound. lol They might take Zetsu out, since they got Karin.

Alright i have 5 canidates for the final villan..

Kabuchimaru - Neo Orochimaru using a combination of elementals, forbidden, snakes, medical etc...

Yondaime - Revived as an evil person to wreck hell on the ninja world

Kyuubi - Naruto has to defeat him sometime. ;\

Uchiha Madara - Sharingan expert. (oh man how did he escape that blast and survived being asundered into two?)

Some strong ass demon/person - Hey i'd like to know too. lol

katonha · 11-12-2007, 03:30 PM

I see a lot of different possibilities.

1. Madara could be the last villian, just because he is behind AK, and he could possibly be the reason behind the Kyuubi (or is the reason). I could see him having another confrontation with the Kyuubi somehow.

2. Zetsu is mysterious and all so we don't know exactly what to expect from him.

3. Itachi is so mysterious to, and it seems that he has some kind of plan up his sleve that no one knows about.

4. And lastly,Danzou wants to take over Konoha or something because he is a sore loser to Sarutobi. Having Kabuchimaru on his side would help a lot in doing this, but Kabuchimaru is like that unknown thatwe don't know what he will do next.

I think that it will mostly be 1 for the first option. After that, 4 would be the second option. I don't see 2 and 3 being with the other two.

brandoi · 11-12-2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Silverblade

Nah.. Hebi knows he's lurking aound. lol They might take Zetsu out, since they got Karin.

That's exactly why I think Zetsu is the final, he's always around, but nobody knows. Hebi and them don't know either.

Sharingan Lord · 11-12-2007, 05:34 PM

Madara.
Basically for all the reasons the first post's quote has.

KatonSuiton · 11-12-2007, 05:59 PM

I said Kabuchimaru. I think Kishi'll push him off to the side for the next "x(x)(x?))" amount of ch's.
Kabuchimaru would be an un-expected final villain. Kishi seems to like his readers to expect and formulate theories and then just totally flip it around on us, un-expectedly. ^.^
Kabuchimaru, as I said above, will probably get pushed aside for now. The focus probably will be and stay on the more major villains at the moment. Kabuchimaru lurking, waiting to re-appear! :P
Really, my guess is that the next time we see Kabuchimaru... he won't even still be considered Kabuchimaru. Orochimaru's DNA is kinda like a parasite on Kabuto, is it not? Kabu. will probably just look like plain ol' evil Oro. again by the time we see 'em again.

Solus Bringer · 11-12-2007, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KatonSuiton

I said Kabuchimaru. I think Kishi'll push him off to the side for the next "x(x)(x?))" amount of ch's.
Kabuchimaru would be an un-expected final villain. Kishi seems to like his readers to expect and formulate theories and then just totally flip it around on us, un-expectedly. ^.^

I think you mean kubo you always have an idea but it always heads into the WTF idea so yeah

I know I am going to be killed for this or be called an idiot But i actually think that there is only three choices for Final Villian

1 (the wtf one) Zabuza, yeah i know he was killed and all that crap but i mean with the abilities of Haku and with out the restriant of his sword he totally kicked ass. His power with out his sword was yet to be seen. Not only that but with Haku who (if it wasnt for Kyuubi) was almost invincible because of his/her Kekkei Genkai. The two were also the first to spark the emotions to release the kyuubi the first time and awaken Sasuke's Sharingan with that he could either have been recruiting for good members of Akatsuki or was looking for Jinchuriki. So yeah that is the why he could be plus it started with Zabuza and it could end with Zabuza.

2. Madara, same as before that he is deeply rooted into the story. But I also think that there is more to this that dives down deep into the story to behind the scenes almost. I think that for the longest time he might have been in a hibernative state in which time his power could ferment and become stronger. From here I believe he awakened and started Kyuubi crisis which causes the whole naruto ordeal. For Sasuke on the other hand, I believe that Itachi seeing that Madara was still alive feared probably that he would try to take the power of the clan and use it take over Konoha or maybe destroy it or something along those lines. In this I believe he thought that he could destroy his clan and stop what ever it was the big guy was thinking. He spared Sasuke because he felt guilty for killing his clan and hoped that sasuke would rise to be more powerful then him so he could take down Itachi. With this it starts the story in motion and causes what we see today.

3. Kinda cliche I know but Sasuke himself. In the story you have to big rivals that would do anything to prove there worth to the other. They are at their essence the same but chose to take different paths. I think that this could hinder a spark that would cause Sasuke to never return or join Naruto because he feels that it just might inhibit him to be better than Naruto. I believe that Naruto and Sasuke are going to be battling within the Madara battle for control over who is to fight him. From there I think the fight will (after they have killed Madara)end up being an almost repeat of the VoTE battle but I think the it will be more epic and in fact this time actually have one of them winning.

So that is my theory no sorry Zetsu and kabuchimaru dont deserve a spot here sorry.

Dynafrom · 11-12-2007, 06:19 PM

Denzel Washington.

View Poll Results: Who will be the final villain?
Pein	12	9.02%
Uchiha Madara	73	54.89%
Kabuchimaru	30	22.56%
Zetsu	3	2.26%
Root?	12	9.02%
Uchiha Itachi (wtf?)	3	2.26%
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11-12-2007, 04:50 AM	#2
MikeyM1979 Hokage Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York Age: 33 Posts: 6,907 Thanks: 15 Thanked 604 Times in 577 Posts	Re: Final Villain? I think Kabuchimaru would be the final villain. Orochimaru started the series off as the first major (no offense to Zabuza and Haku fans) villain, and I think the series will end with his return through Kabuto. __________________ Mikey's deviantART Owner of the Naruto Debating FC Member of the Akatsuki FC Proud co-owner of the Dragonball FC Proud owner of the Genius FC

11-12-2007, 10:02 AM	#4
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11-12-2007, 10:13 AM	#5
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11-12-2007, 11:21 AM	#6
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11-12-2007, 11:35 AM	#7
brandoi bloodyazn Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: In your pants o_O Age: 19 Posts: 1,460 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Final Villain? My vote goes to Zetsu. Why you may ask? Zetsu is a weird-ass character. Popping up around fights and just watching it. At the end of Naruto and Sasuke's fight, he comes out from the ground, wtf's up with that? As of this chapter, Zetsu has played absolutely NO PART in anything. I believe that once everything is gone, Zetsu appears and kills a bunch of people, and then Naruto comes. __________________

11-12-2007, 11:57 AM	#8
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11-12-2007, 03:30 PM	#10
katonha Hunter-Nin Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,094 Thanks: 0 Thanked 112 Times in 110 Posts	Re: Final Villain? I see a lot of different possibilities. 1. Madara could be the last villian, just because he is behind AK, and he could possibly be the reason behind the Kyuubi (or is the reason). I could see him having another confrontation with the Kyuubi somehow. 2. Zetsu is mysterious and all so we don't know exactly what to expect from him. 3. Itachi is so mysterious to, and it seems that he has some kind of plan up his sleve that no one knows about. 4. And lastly,Danzou wants to take over Konoha or something because he is a sore loser to Sarutobi. Having Kabuchimaru on his side would help a lot in doing this, but Kabuchimaru is like that unknown thatwe don't know what he will do next. I think that it will mostly be 1 for the first option. After that, 4 would be the second option. I don't see 2 and 3 being with the other two. __________________ A Member of The Dragonball Z Fan Club A Member of The Avatar: The last airbender FC Check out Osy057's Gallery and his original Naruto characters. http://osy057.deviantart.com/

11-12-2007, 05:34 PM	#12
Sharingan Lord I'm done. Byeeee. Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,802 Thanks: 36 Thanked 25 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Final Villain? Madara. Basically for all the reasons the first post's quote has.

11-12-2007, 05:59 PM	#13
KatonSuiton Genin Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Wink! ~_^ Age: 21 Posts: 94 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Final Villain? I said Kabuchimaru. I think Kishi'll push him off to the side for the next "x(x)(x?))" amount of ch's. Kabuchimaru would be an un-expected final villain. Kishi seems to like his readers to expect and formulate theories and then just totally flip it around on us, un-expectedly. ^.^ Kabuchimaru, as I said above, will probably get pushed aside for now. The focus probably will be and stay on the more major villains at the moment. Kabuchimaru lurking, waiting to re-appear! :P Really, my guess is that the next time we see Kabuchimaru... he won't even still be considered Kabuchimaru. Orochimaru's DNA is kinda like a parasite on Kabuto, is it not? Kabu. will probably just look like plain ol' evil Oro. again by the time we see 'em again.

11-12-2007, 06:19 PM	#15
Dynafrom Academy Student Join Date: Jul 2007 Age: 29 Posts: 48 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Final Villain? Denzel Washington.

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