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Old 09-02-2009, 12:18 PM   #1
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ALL CAPS emails lead to woman's firing

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WHAT COULD BE MORE ANNOYING THAN THIS? MAYBE IF IT WAS BOLD? AND RED?

OK, I can't actually make that text red due to the publishing system I'm on, but it would certainly be annoying, wouldn't it?

And if you worked for New Zealand's ProCare Health, it could even get you fired.

That's exactly what hapened to Vicki Walker, who was abruptly kicked out of her job for sending "confrontational emails" with text formatted in a variety of red, bold, and all caps fonts. Walker had sent the emails to fellow workers within the company, usually with stern and detailed instructions on how forms should be properly filled out.

Someone at ProCare didn't like her approach, suggesting she caused "disharmony in the workplace" and was being too confrontational via email, eventually firing her without warning.

Walker, however, got the last laugh. She sued for wrongful termination and won the case, pocketing $17,000 in lost wages and for other unspecified harm caused due to the firing.

Quite a predicament. Is it actually possible to be confrontational in an email message? With instructions on how to fill out a form? By all accounts, Walker's emails sound rude and brusque, but did she cross a line? Just how angry would an email have to be in order to merit being fired from her job? I know I've sent a "confrontational" message or two to my co-workers in the past, and I've received more than my fair share of them, I think. I never recall anyone getting fired for it.

What do you think? Is it OK to fire someone for misuse of their caps lock button? Feel free to respond in the comments section below. First one to do so in all caps gets fired.
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Old 09-02-2009, 10:34 PM   #2
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Re: ALL CAPS emails lead to woman's firing

Nearly every Caps Lock should just be taken out back and shot.

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Old 09-04-2009, 07:34 AM   #3
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Nearly every Caps Lock should just be taken out back and shot.

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Old 09-03-2009, 02:19 AM   #5
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Re: ALL CAPS emails lead to woman's firing

I LIEK TO TYPE IN ZE CAPS. THAT WALKER LADY WAS LUCKY INDEED.

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Re: ALL CAPS emails lead to woman's firing

They just used the CAPS deal to act as a scapegoat for the real reason why they fired her: she was out of the designated kitchen/breakroom for too long. Gotta be politico correct .
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Re: ALL CAPS emails lead to woman's firing

Thats retarded...... How can you be confrontational through the look of text? Its the punctuation which gives a sentence it's intent. Not the look of the letters. True, in the work place you should be more formal with an e-mail that is work related. But to fire someone for it and claim it as confrontational is illogical and plain stupid.

Thats like saying various fonts are confrontational. Say for instance, if you typed a business letter in comic sans font instead of times new roman. Even though the letter was addressed as urgent business matter, the recipient thought it was a joke letter and not of importance and cast it aside. As result the business lost money and the writer of the letter was fired because the letter was too informal for the business place.

At best, all caps can be found as annoying to some, but thats it.
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Old 09-17-2009, 07:19 PM   #8
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You sir, are an IDIOT.

See? Confrontational.
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Re: ALL CAPS emails lead to woman's firing

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You sir, are an IDIOT.

See? Confrontational.
but that wasnt the issue with the lady getting fired.... the whole email was in caps, and it was instructions or some shit. she didnt use confrontational wording. the text itself ( its appearance) was what was said to be confrontational
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Old 09-20-2009, 06:57 PM   #10
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OKAY!!!!!! SO EVEN IF EVERYTHING IS ALL BIG AND RED AND ANGRY LOOKING IT'S ALL OKAY?????? SERIOUSLY????? I'M PRETTY SURE ANYONE READING THIS WOULD FEEL I WAS RATHER UPSET/FRUSTRATED WITH THEM OR JUST PLAIN HATED HAVING TO TALK TO THEM BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE DUMB.cpas
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OKAY!!!!!! SO EVEN IF EVERYTHING IS ALL BIG AND RED AND ANGRY LOOKING IT'S ALL OKAY?????? SERIOUSLY????? I'M PRETTY SURE ANYONE READING THIS WOULD FEEL I WAS RATHER UPSET/FRUSTRATED WITH THEM OR JUST PLAIN HATED HAVING TO TALK TO THEM BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE DUMB.cpas
ya, um .... angry looking is a matter of opinion.... it doesnt bother me, i wouldn't do it, but doesnt seem like a big deal. your pretty sure, ok. i would only judge it by the context. you do seem a lil agitated, not because the size of the font or the color tho.

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is that angry to you. is it giving you that dirty look. i think your associating the "angry look" idea to the color/mood relation. they say yellow is a happy eccentric color, red is an angry color, and so on so forth. but that seems dumb to say that a message is confrontational just because of its color. the all caps thing, if anything expresses importance.
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Re: ALL CAPS emails lead to woman's firing

If it's simply a regular old business message then why would you bother to change the default formatting unless you were a) trying to hint at something, or b) retarded. Were I to receive an email with your message, big red and bold, I'd feel as though anyone who didn't meet their quota could be fired. You can't just take things at face value all the time or you're liable to miss important subtext from time to time that completely changes the meaning of the message.
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Re: ALL CAPS emails lead to woman's firing

i didnt mean to bold, regardless you have a point.

but angry looking text is a matter of opinion. if its all caps and in red, thats all it is. if some one thinks or feel it looks angry then, its opinion. hint at the word think or feel. the opening thread said she was fired simply cause the message was all caps and read, and was SEEN as confrontational. she should have been fired for unprofessionalism, but apparently they took the opinionated route. which was wrong
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Above is a common symbol of JUSTICE. Is a scale always symbolic of JUSTICE? No, but it is common practice, and most people are aware of this symbolism.

Similarly, typing in all capitals is taken to be symbolic of yelling, and the colour red often symbolizes anger. Yes, it's merely "opinion", but it's an opinion so widely held that it's become common public understanding.
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Re: ALL CAPS emails lead to woman's firing

that particular scale is widely recognized as representing "justice". if you say the word scale in general then the majority would not recognize the word as representing justice.

capital letters represent importance more than yelling. the red letters, ya would more than less symbolize anger. but they should have fired her on the grounds of unprofessionalism not confrontational behavior.

either way she won the suit because it was found as wrongful termination. which proves my point that they should have not fired her for being confrontational, because it was too much of an opinionated reason
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