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Old 09-10-2010, 12:50 AM   #1
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PMS Proof ?

I know alot of people assume that tobi has the PMS/EMS But is there any proof ? Pls Don't confuse the PMS with the MS because he clearly has the MS but the question I am posing is if tobi has the PMS instead of just the MS? I haven't been able to find any proof of tobi having the PMS/EMS and after watching his first all out fight (vs konan) I am beginning to think having the PMS is yet another one of tobi's lies.
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I know alot of people assume that tobi has the PMS/EMS But is there any proof ? Pls Don't confuse the PMS with the MS because he clearly has the MS but the question I am posing is if tobi has the PMS instead of just the MS? I haven't been able to find any proof of tobi having the PMS/EMS and after watching his first all out fight I am beginning to think having the PMS is yet another one of tobi's lies.
How is it clearly MS? Is there proof?(see what I did there?)
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Re: PMS Proof ?

Tobi's MS has a 3 tomoe shape to trick enemies into thinking he's average Uchiha scum. He still is average scum anyway though.
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I know alot of people assume that tobi has the PMS/EMS But is there any proof ? Pls Don't confuse the PMS with the MS because he clearly has the MS but the question I am posing is if tobi has the PMS instead of just the MS? I haven't been able to find any proof of tobi having the PMS/EMS and after watching his first all out fight (vs konan) I am beginning to think having the PMS is yet another one of tobi's lies.
Dude seems pretty laid back to me?
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Re: PMS Proof ?

I think the reason he doesn't use it is because it still has the drawback of draining a shitload of chakra when it's used. It might not cause blindness, but it would still weaken him considerably. Considering he's stated that he's still weakened from the injuries he sustained while fighting Hashirama, this is actually pretty plausible. He might not have shown it because he hasn't had the need, and it would weaken him more than he already is.
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I think the reason he doesn't use it is because it still has the drawback of draining a shitload of chakra when it's used. It might not cause blindness, but it would still weaken him considerably. Considering he's stated that he's still weakened from the injuries he sustained while fighting Hashirama, this is actually pretty plausible. He might not have shown it because he hasn't had the need, and it would weaken him more than he already is.
That is not likely seeing as how Tobito has hashirama's cells implanted in him to boost his power...

ANd how is there no proof tobito has a basic MS... when he has the exact same MS as kakashi which is a basic MS so argument over... Tobito does have a basic MS....
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Re: PMS Proof ?

Zetsu body doesn't have enough juice to power up an EMS.
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^^ EMS is not some kinda nuclear reactor
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^^ EMS is not some kinda nuclear reactor

Really.
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Really.
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Re: PMS Proof ?

I am pretty sure it is safe to say Tobi used Izagnia(ms) and it rendered his EMS useless. I also posted this in predictions before this thread was created, I do not think he has it, I will say at one point he may have had it but as of right now he does not.
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I am pretty sure it is safe to say Tobi used Izagnia(ms) and it rendered his EMS useless.
I'm pretty sure I pointed out that he has his eye power fully intact, so he's never used Izanagi.
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I'm pretty sure I pointed out that he has his eye power fully intact, so he's never used Izanagi.
WAIT WAIT WAIT OMG OMG OMG

You read the manga and saw Tobi use EMS?!?!?!?! Show me the page, please please please, come on show me, why don't i see the panel?!?!

Oh wait... that's because no where in the manga have we seen Tobi use EMS. Hmm, wait a second, then my statement saying Tobi can't use EMS because of Izanagi could possibly be RIGHT. Holy shit, man what a turn around.

What I am saying is, Tobi could had used Izanagi against the first during their fight, losing powers of his EMS. Izanagi after being used several times or even once, could do severe damage to the eyes, we don't know for sure. We do know Tobi knows what Izanagi is, because he knew the name and knew what the jutsu was, and two we have not seen Tobi use EMS, judging by that, I am going to assume that his EMS is rendered useless, and I think its a plausible THEORY that it is true. Notice how I said THEORY, meaning not proven but it can be backed up.
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WAIT WAIT WAIT OMG OMG OMG

You read the manga and saw Tobi use EMS?!?!?!?! Show me the page, please please please, come on show me, why don't i see the panel?!?!

Oh wait... that's because no where in the manga have we seen Tobi use EMS. Hmm, wait a second, then my statement saying Tobi can't use EMS because of Izanagi could possibly be RIGHT. Holy shit, man what a turn around.

What I am saying is, Tobi could had used Izanagi against the first during their fight, losing powers of his EMS. Izanagi after being used several times or even once, could do severe damage to the eyes, we don't know for sure. We do know Tobi knows what Izanagi is, because he knew the name and knew what the jutsu was, and two we have not seen Tobi use EMS, judging by that, I am going to assume that his EMS is rendered useless, and I think its a plausible THEORY that it is true. Notice how I said THEORY, meaning not proven but it can be backed up.
I never said he used his EMS, I said his eye powers are fully intact. This is backed up with manga panels. On the bottom left panel Itachi says that he (Madara) remains alive and well, as do his eyes and their power. This means that he still has the capability to use his EMS.

But, like I pointed out earlier, MS/EMS drains a significant amount of chakra from the user, much more than a standard sharingan. If Madara is still feeling his wounds from the fight with Hashirama, he might not have as great of a chakra pool to draw on and using his EMS would be a detriment than a benefit.
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I never said he used his EMS, I said his eye powers are fully intact. This is backed up with manga panels. On the bottom left panel Itachi says that he (Madara) remains alive and well, as do his eyes and their power. This means that he still has the capability to use his EMS.

But, like I pointed out earlier, MS/EMS drains a significant amount of chakra from the user, much more than a standard sharingan. If Madara is still feeling his wounds from the fight with Hashirama, he might not have as great of a chakra pool to draw on and using his EMS would be a detriment than a benefit.
Indeed, because a Zetsu body doesn't have enough juice to power up an EMS.
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