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Old 09-11-2007, 07:01 PM   #121
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Pissed off or no, learn to control yourself. Talk like that will only lead to a flame (most likely on your part) and you'll be banned as a result.

Anyway, just as Tea Tee said, this is a religious FC on the internet, where most people are either skeptical or atheist or, well, not Christian. The fact that this FC exists here is enough on its own to spawn debates, flame wars, and whatever else you can name.

The negative repping? Big fuckin' deal. Get over it, guys. It happens. I was negged once for being a Wiccan. But did I let that get to me? No. Grow up a little bit and just let petty little things like this go, especially if you're not going to defend yourselves (and your religion, consequentially) in an intelligible manner.
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:21 PM   #122
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Its better tooo keep your comments too your self and if you are an ateist thats your choice, just leave us alone u need a life man
AHAHAHAHAHA, this is coming from someone who's making a big deal over negative repping. As for me keeping my comments to myself, I was, but then Tea Tee indirectly asked me to come out and express my opinion, which I did.

And holy crap (haha, pun), I was expecting much more of a debate/arguement/etc. than "Get out", "Get a life", or "Don't come in here and express your opinions (with total disregard to me being called out to do so)" comments. That's just plain pathetic.
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:31 PM   #123
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I have realized that you are not worth getting hot head over, your a guy that just needs attention and luv and I hope that 1 day you understand christ the same way we do, maybe even better...
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:56 PM   #124
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I have realized that you are not worth getting hot head over, your a guy that just needs attention and luv and I hope that 1 day you understand christ the same way we do, maybe even better...
Oh man, that's funny. You just realized that you shouldn't get worked up over me? Yeah, you're a few hours too late. As for getting attention, I get plenty of it, and it's positive attention such as, "Good job on your test!" or simply being acknowledged by my friends and family for existing. Attention isn't what I need, or love for that matter. And please, that's coming from someone who needs Jesus' love and to feel safe and secure while they live. As for me understanding Christ one day, haha, no thanks.
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Old 09-11-2007, 09:19 PM   #125
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thanks for the compliment, and i wasnt going for a debate with that dude. i know full well im not so good at debating. i should know, i took a debating class, and failed miserably. =\ whatever, but i was simply stating that we dont mind some critisism about christianity, god knows we get enough as it is, but that if he is going to go to such lengths as to give us bad reps, and constantly harp on us about what we say, we dont want to hear it. and dont appreciate it, bored or not. and if he feels so strongly about it then he can go vent in the spam zone, not in our fc. we arnt taking his comments to heart and we will not fall or divide because of his biast views. i think this wil, in fact, bring us together stronger than ever, unite us more against such stuff.

::EDIT:: the reason for the "not much of a fight" is probably because most of the ppl are pretty young. idk who is how old, and there are some new christians too, so they havent faced this b4. their just new, and probably a little intimidated too. *shrugs* if im alone in this fight, so be it.
i have problems with that statement, Christians are a reigning religion up there with the other big ones. Of course your gonna get some crap about it, but you have so many followers it shouldn't matter. =/

@rudeboynin please stop with those short posts that mean nothing and are are bound to become flames, as SugoiNaruto162 said. If you look at your posts in relation to the others, your posts look pretty pointless.

I too am an atheist, and i actually enjoy talking with really religious people, to learn about the religion. Knowledge is power, and i also get their point of view which is often interesting compared to my own. And from doing this i can see the parts of religion that can really help certain people, and i can also see the flaws in the religions. Religion is often a good thing for people who don't know were their life is going, or aren't responsible to make good enough choices; so if they have a god to watch over them then they tend to think about their choices/life more than they would normally. Now of course there are flaws, but i see that most of the flaws come from how the bible is interpreted. People forget that the bible has been translated hundreds of times over and people did change things. I think the first version was in Latin and there are very few direct translations from Latin to English, German, French, etc. But the biggest reason people are aware of these flaws is because of the people that are in public view(ex: Geroge W. Bush) who constantly make people aware of these things in public speeches or addresses.
Another one of my problems is the multiple factions of protestant faith. During the Reformation the church was weak because few believed in it after the black death. So people like Martin Luther and John Calvin, who were well learned, decided to preach their own believes and certain people liked it so they became followers to that faith. So it started with i think 2-4 Protestant religions, but my problem is that there is so fuckin many now. I mean it started to just multiply as time went by.
i also don't completely get why Catholics(including factions), Protestants(including factions), Islam(including factions) and Jewish can't say that they all have the same god. I can understand that because of this that they are always at war, but seriously this all still goes on because adults tell their kids "no son jews are bad" and then that boy hates jews for his life, and it continues down the heritage.

and one last question that i would like answered:
Why are the Jews blamed for the killing of Christ?
i'm confused on this because: the people performing the crucifictions during that period were the Romans(Polytheistic) and they performed this on Jesus(Jewish) because he was a heretic and needed to be punished. So why would the Jews be blamed for that? And why would Jesus want his own faith?
(please correct me if i'm wrong)
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Old 09-11-2007, 11:44 PM   #126
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one day the disbelievers will have no choice but too believe but for their sakes I hope that it those not come too that......
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Old 09-11-2007, 11:45 PM   #127
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How about this why make this fc fuk jesus n wat. see the light my ass when i see a car with the saying jews for jesus or jesus for jew i call my bodys and we break that car down so badly ohhhhh i understand christiians beliveing in him cause thats their religion or w/e but when ppl say jews for jesus or vice versa i will smash up ur car or tag the shit up of your store,


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Old 09-11-2007, 11:52 PM   #128
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one day the disbelievers will have no choice but too believe but for their sakes I hope that it those not come too that......
Do you have any proof to back all that up? Seriously, learn how to debate or at least defend your beliefs a more convincing manner! And why not answer knife man's question? You sure seem to be confident in this whole area, so maybe you can shed some light. I'd also like to know the answer.
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Old 09-11-2007, 11:52 PM   #129
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one day the disbelievers will have no choice but too believe but for their sakes I hope that it those not come too that......
for (insert high power here) sake you know that we have many atheist and u know why because they have common sense okay, now then please say more why must we come to terms with the speculation that there is a god
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i'm confused on this because: the people performing the crucifictions during that period were the Romans(Polytheistic) and they performed this on Jesus(Jewish) because he was a heretic and needed to be punished. So why would the Jews be blamed for that? And why would Jesus want his own faith?
(please correct me if i'm wrong)
yes, well it is said in the bible that while the romans did physically crusify Jesus, his own people, the jews, denied him as the messiah, and that (by my own interpretation) if they had embraced him, he wouldn't have been crucified. (end interpretation) the pharacies <--sp? did not want him to be the messiah, cause well, they would be out of a job so they divised this plan to which they riled up the people against him. the roman courts could not find anything againat Jesus. but, they were pushed, by the jews, so hard to get rid of him, that they offered the choice, Jesus or Barabus. they chose to free Barabus, a murderer and have Jesus crucified instead. thus, the jews were indirectly/directly influencial in Jesus' death. does that clear it up?

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How about this why make this fc fuk jesus n wat. see the light my ass when i see a car with the saying jews for jesus or jesus for jew i call my bodys and we break that car down so badly ohhhhh i understand christiians beliveing in him cause thats their religion or w/e but when ppl say jews for jesus or vice versa i will smash up ur car or tag the shit up of your store,
your worse than rudeboynin.
@rudeboynin yeah, you definatly need to work on what your saying man, cause its so weak, it would break if a feather landed on it. =\

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for (insert high power here) sake you know that we have many atheist and u know why because they have common sense okay, now then please say more why must we come to terms with the speculation that there is a god
well, you dont have to. thats the beauty of free will, unfortunatly, i have had some problems w/ this myself, free will, but god knows the end, so how is it free will? *shakes head* i got no answer for that one. but anyway, i digress, you dont have to accept there is a god. as christians, we feel that it would be in your best interest for the future, but its totally up to you.
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yes, well it is said in the bible that while the romans did physically crusify Jesus, his own people, the jews, denied him as the messiah, and that (by my own interpretation) if they had embraced him, he wouldn't have been crucified. (end interpretation) the pharacies <--sp? did not want him to be the messiah, cause well, they would be out of a job so they divised this plan to which they riled up the people against him. the roman courts could not find anything againat Jesus. but, they were pushed, by the jews, so hard to get rid of him, that they offered the choice, Jesus or Barabus. they chose to free Barabus, a murderer and have Jesus crucified instead. thus, the jews were indirectly/directly influencial in Jesus' death. does that clear it up?
Now you were making sense until the bold part. The romans of that time had multiple gods and did not ask the Jews who should and shouldn't be crucified, but they were actually crucifying Jews, heretics, and outlaws to make it obvious that Rome was the ultimate power of the world. This is something often forgotten about the crucifictions, they happened to a lot of people. So jesus wasn't the only guy nailed to a cross, then killed by a spear to the heart. It just happened that his was a more advertised death. (but this is a very hard area in time, being how much real history and religion has been intermixed; making it very hard to get a good definite answer.)
And even if the Jews managed to influence the Romans, on who they killed, it would be a "just" thing to do. If Jesus wanted his own religion, why would the Jews want more competition? So it would make some sense that they would have him killed, but this is all a "what if" idea.



::edit:: ok so this'll be my last post here unless for some reason i have to/want to
now the post below me has one of the best replies in this conversation, they explained things in a sophisticated way with a believable reason.
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Old 09-12-2007, 05:22 PM   #134
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the jews waited for a messiah and are still waiting too this day. At first they all wanted jesus as there messiah because they thought that if they fight the romans jesus would just bring them back too life when they died, they saw jesus as their savior from roman rule, soo that is why they worshipped him on palm sunday.But since jesus was about peace and love many disliked him and started too assume that he may not be there savior , but jesus urpose was not too save them from the romans but too save their soul from eternal suffering
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too the guy how keeps repping me red is that all you got, and why is everyone crying about what i said I have not even begun too say anything bad
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